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Crash Jordan
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SCIENTISTS claim the giant atom-smashing Large Hadron Collider (LHC) is being jinxed from the future to save the world.

In a bizarre sci-fi theory, Danish physicist Dr Holger Bech Nielsen and Dr Masao Ninomiya from Japan claim the LHC startup has been delayed due to nature trying to prevent it from finding the elusive Higgs boson, or "God particle".

They say their maths proves that nature will "ripple backward through time" to stop the LHC before it can create the God particle, like a time traveller who goes back in time to kill his grandfather.

“One could even almost say that we have a model for God,” Dr Nielsen says in an unpublished essay.

“He rather hates Higgs particles, and attempts to avoid them.”

"While it is a paradox to go back in time and kill your grandfather, physicists agree there is no paradox if you go back in time and save him from being hit by a bus," Dannis Overbye wrote in the New York Times.

"In the case of the Higgs and the collider, it is as if something is going back in time to keep the universe from being hit by a bus."

“It must be our prediction that all Higgs producing machines shall have bad luck,” Dr Nielsen told the New York Times.

European science agency CERN designed the world's biggest particle accelerator to shoot beams around a freezing 27km concrete ring underground near Geneva, smashing atoms together in search of the elusive "God particle" which is believed to have been present at the Big Bang.

The multi-billion-dollar machine, built over almost 20 years, was set to launch in late 2008 but broke down after it overheated during a test run.

The relaunch was pushed back to late 2009 as more parts had to be replaced, and CERN was recently scandalised when a LHC scientist was found to have approached al-Qaeda for work.

The LHC - which features in sci-fi plots such as Dan Brown's Angels and Demons and the new TV show FlashForward - has been dubbed a "doomsday device" with claims it will open black holes.

Last year, Professor Brian Cox of Manchester University told the UK Telegraph that LHC scientists had received threatening emails and phone calls demanding that the experiment be halted.

But Prof Cox, ex-keyboardist for 1990's pop group D:REAM, dismissed the hysteria in rock-star style.

"Anyone who thinks the LHC will destroy the world is a tw--," he said.

The LHC is set to start up again next month.

- with Reuters


Well it's certainly plausible, since they've also considered that it may well be possible for the LHC to perform time travel.
Electron
The LHC will work again next month?! Great! biggrin.gif
But I don't really believe the 'going back in time' thing..
They claim God goes back in time to prevent the Higgs particle from being created? Seems unlikely to me.. blink.gif Or I just don't get it.

But next month! Yay! thumbsup.gif

Where'd you find this article, by the way?
EDIT: Oh, never mind that last question: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,568528,00.html
ProMetaAnaTelo
QUOTE (Electron @ Oct 20 2009, 05:21 AM) *
The LHC will work again next month?! Great! biggrin.gif
But I don't really believe the 'going back in time' thing..
They claim God goes back in time to prevent the Higgs particle from being created? Seems unlikely to me.. blink.gif Or I just don't get it.

But next month! Yay! thumbsup.gif

Where'd you find this article, by the way?
EDIT: Oh, never mind that last question: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,568528,00.html


God is in the future all of the sudden?
Electron
QUOTE (ProMetaAnaTelo @ Oct 20 2009, 11:34 AM) *
QUOTE (Electron @ Oct 20 2009, 05:21 AM) *
The LHC will work again next month?! Great! biggrin.gif
But I don't really believe the 'going back in time' thing..
They claim God goes back in time to prevent the Higgs particle from being created? Seems unlikely to me.. blink.gif Or I just don't get it.

But next month! Yay! thumbsup.gif

Where'd you find this article, by the way?
EDIT: Oh, never mind that last question: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,568528,00.html


God is in the future all of the sudden?

Well that's the part I don't get..
Dizzy
If this machine is such a 'doomsday device', then all I have to say to our near possible 'doomsday' is: Bring it on, bitch.

I'd be more concerned if this thing actually works. If it does work, then evil powers will get a hold of it, and well... ultimately, either way, it's a damn doomsday device.
traver
i'm danish....... ermm.gif like the prof.
Ed5
QUOTE (Electron @ Oct 20 2009, 05:21 AM) *
The LHC will work again next month?! Great! biggrin.gif
But I don't really believe the 'going back in time' thing..
They claim God goes back in time to prevent the Higgs particle from being created? Seems unlikely to me.. blink.gif Or I just don't get it.

But next month! Yay! thumbsup.gif

Where'd you find this article, by the way?
EDIT: Oh, never mind that last question: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,568528,00.html

o.O Where you get that God is coming from the future to save us?
The article is saying that a scientist believe that someone from the future is coming back in time to delay the creation of the model for the start of the universe.
Faybro
They don't understand time travel. >_> You can't create a paradox.

Anyways, god coming from the future to save us does sound pretty neat. :P
ZarkonisR
If God were coming back from the future to... Well, why would he need to? He's omnipresent. Everywhere, at any time. And, he's promised the world can't end any other way than his chosen, so why would God be coming back to prevent the end of the world? Why isn't he just doing a "Tower of Babel" type thing? Blow the whole ring sky high.
PoultryChamp
Bullshit.

Of all people, I'd expect scientists to be a little more rational. This sounds like something the Catholic church would say.
Garanaw
QUOTE (PoultryChamp @ Oct 20 2009, 03:58 PM) *
Bullshit.

Of all people, I'd expect scientists to be a little more rational. This sounds like something the Catholic church would say.

Scientists? Rational? I'd expect that too, but it's not the first time, you know, *ahem* confused.gif
TheAnnunaki
QUOTE (Electron @ Oct 20 2009, 05:41 AM) *
QUOTE (ProMetaAnaTelo @ Oct 20 2009, 11:34 AM) *
QUOTE (Electron @ Oct 20 2009, 05:21 AM) *
The LHC will work again next month?! Great! biggrin.gif
But I don't really believe the 'going back in time' thing..
They claim God goes back in time to prevent the Higgs particle from being created? Seems unlikely to me.. blink.gif Or I just don't get it.

But next month! Yay! thumbsup.gif

Where'd you find this article, by the way?
EDIT: Oh, never mind that last question: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,568528,00.html


God is in the future all of the sudden?

Well that's the part I don't get..


I think its an expresion, because the higgs particle is also reffered to as the gods particle, because its the particle they believe started the big bang and everything else, so its just an expresion when they say " god is coming back to stop us from finding the god particle. really they mean people of the future are coming back.
Flatypus
QUOTE (PoultryChamp @ Oct 20 2009, 02:58 PM) *
This sounds like something the Catholic church would say.


I think its more like something Fox News would say and make a big deal out of tongue.gif
Crash, the topic title is getting cut out. You should continue it in the bit underneath the Main title box.
Electron
Wait a minute..

Someone, from the FUTURE is trying to prevent the universe from being destroyed. So in his/her time, it already happened? How the hell can he/she live..?

Wait another minute..

Maybe that someone is only trying to prevent us from finding the Higgs boson (which doesn't destroy the universe at all). Now why would he/she do that?
ZarkonisR
QUOTE (Electron @ Oct 20 2009, 06:38 PM) *
Wait a minute..

Someone, from the FUTURE is trying to prevent the universe from being destroyed. So in his/her time, it already happened? How the hell can he/she live..?

Wait another minute..

Maybe that someone is only trying to prevent us from finding the Higgs boson (which doesn't destroy the universe at all). Now why would he/she do that?


Because it could unlock limitless free energy, and the person who's sabotaging the Collider is an agent from China, working for Emperor Mao's brain-in-a-jar.
SgtGumbo


Disregarding that article..
Crash Jordan
You guys need to go google the god particle. They aren't talking about god being in the future.
Lord John
Doesn't really affect me (unless they implode the earth.) The scientist's logic though is kind of funny.
Dizzy
I'd laugh if this whole thing gets postponed until December 21st, 2012.
Aslancsc
None of that is true.

But it is fun to think about.
*reminisces about half life 1 and how they built a semi-doomsday device to do similar things*

Lets just hope that this "rock-star" has a spare hazard suit and plenty of bullets.
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