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amersccrdude
What the hell is going on with this game? What is Jagex doing? Way to keep the community up to date on what you are doing. We haven't received news in forever, and all the news we do receive it is already something that we know. What is wrong with Jagex? They need to give us some answers, because I'm sure their losing a lot of interests.
Trunkzta
QUOTE (amersccrdude @ Oct 5 2009, 03:32 AM) *
What the hell is going on with this game? What is Jagex doing? Way to keep the community up to date on what you are doing. We haven't received news in forever, and all the news we do receive it is already something that we know. What is wrong with Jagex? They need to give us some answers, because I'm sure their losing a lot of interests.


thats exactly what they want

the less hype for them the better at this point.
Dracul
lol amen to amersccrude.

To be honest...i don't know if it was Olifier's policy of secrecy or it was mark gerhard's company wide policy of secrecy..but either way it really isn't a good marketing play.
Lord John
How is the less hype good? They delay the MS Q.A, the head of MS quits and all they tell us is "soon." I do agree that the lack of information is annoying and has by now, lowered the interest of many players.
Dracul
in some cases john, players have lost interest alltogether, not just mere lower interest.
Aslancsc
yeah, it is beginning to be ridiculous. I really wish they would at least say the word mechscape... or tell us what the name will be.
Gandaf007
I'll continue being the odd one out. I like their current plan, but I'll admit it'd be nice to get some more information. However, I'm still pretty much as excited as I was when I first heard about Mechscape in December.
Neven
I believe in the theory of things happening in threes. For now the two things that have happened is the lowered hype on MS, and Henrique quitting. My only question is, what's next?
blykon5
QUOTE (Neven @ Oct 5 2009, 02:56 AM) *
I believe in the theory of things happening in threes. For now the two things that have happened is the lowered hype on MS, and Henrique quitting. My only question is, what's next?

"We're sorry to inform you that codename : MechScape , has been canceled.

MMG"
Max
I would like to see Jagex start worry less about hype and more on their future player base. They don't have to give any details in on MechScape. They don't have to say anything about MechScape's gameplay or what it in MechScape. I'm sure a lot of us would just be plain content to see Jagex start saying what is going on in their company. I mean, what are they doing with MechScape? Testing, and for how long have they? Are they adding more to the game or changing what they have to balance better? I would just like to have some of these questions answered and it isn't giving anything away on the game. Just letting us know, "ok they are getting somewhere."

I mean, come on you have Jagex just keeping everything out of our sight like we are little children or something else. They can make comments on the game yet not tell anything. They have been doing that and leaking subtle hints. They can stop leaking hints and just tell us what is going on in behind the scenes. It wouldn't hurt when people start playing and yet it would feed out minds and waiting.

Oh and don't forget they need to do with every now and then. Not like once a month or at random times like they have been. I love Jagex and what they do but I just bothers me that they can't treat us like adults if they want people to act like it.
killrrhubarb
I agree with max. Jagex does not have to release any actual Mechscape information, such as screenshots or interviews, to keep us happy, but only have to release what they are currently doing, such as "we are polishing the races pro's and con's, and because there are four it is taking a while to decide" rather than giving us no information at all. I hope that Jagex does decide to do this in the near future, as it will restore many peoples hope.
Hoboh
QUOTE (Dracul @ Oct 4 2009, 07:49 PM) *
in some cases john, players have lost interest alltogether, not just mere lower interest.


I don't plan on playing MechScape past trying it anymore, when before I was uber pumped about it. I just go on this forum now for the lulz and a good read.
Pliigi
Yeah, we're not looking for a ton of screenshots and content, but something would be nice.

QUOTE (blykon5 @ Oct 4 2009, 08:25 PM) *
QUOTE (Neven @ Oct 5 2009, 02:56 AM) *
I believe in the theory of things happening in threes. For now the two things that have happened is the lowered hype on MS, and Henrique quitting. My only question is, what's next?

"We're sorry to inform you that codename : MechScape , has been canceled.

MMG"


Don't even joke about something like that. dry.gif
Sofee
Yeah, I agree it's just getting very annoying that Mechscape isn't out yet. There have been like a billion delays and I'm sick of it.
Leaven
They are feeling sheepish after the constant failures and backlash that follow every announcement they make. Perhaps they have learned that actions speak louder than words and are actually working on something of substance that they can show us. I don't mind silence if that's the case, they've already proven they're no good at talking.
Fireske
Jagex has very strange marketing plans and I struggled to understand how less hype is good. I guess if they release too much, people will start to hype the game up a little too much, and when it releases, everyone is disappointed and flames Jagex. But this is rather extreme. The last topic added to the 'Confirmed News' was about Stellar Dawn being Mechscape's name. That was posted over a month ago and technically, wasn't even released by Jagex.

Other games inform the public of the release date months in advance. In some cases, close to a whole year before the game hits stores or the internet. Jagex has been making Mechscape for like 4 years or something. I'm sure they would know a date or at least the month in which they want to release it. How hard would it be to tell us that? "Hey dedicated Mechscape fans, we originally told you that we were aiming to release our new game in January '10. Due to unforeseen issues, this will now be pushed back to February '10. Sorry for this, but we at Jagex like to keep our customers in the loop. Love MMG." How hard is that?

I agree with other users, we aren't asking for screenshots or gameplay videos, just a little info. How about telling us what the 4th race is? I'm not sure if that has been confirmed, but it sure would create some positive hype.
Stan
Hello, wonderfull people of MSW.

Most of the people here say that: * we dont get any information, Jagex sucks, blablabla* but.. Jagex never wanted to have this game to be known by people. They wanted to have all the time to work on it, but 'cause of this site, we knew about MechScape very, very soon. I know you will flame me now ( lol, we never flame here ) but they indeed went to E3 and said about having a game released soon. I believe this was about getting that more and more people knew about this game, they had to say something.
(I do find it strange they said march and then its delayed)

If Jagex wants to say *Soon* Then let them. THEY are making the game, and they can release info whenever they like. We must be happy that we got an AUDIO track, Concept Art, interviews etc. We should be happy with what we got and stop whining. I’m sure that Jagex will release some new news about Code name MechScape soon. Andrew Gower even said it.

Just keep it up guys, dont be angry at jagex or at me. I hope I was clear enough˜cause I do life in the Netherlands, and my english is Decent to very decent, but a typo is easely made :P

Thanks in advance,

Stan

P.S. Give me feedback please.
Stan
QUOTE (Fireske @ Oct 5 2009, 09:37 AM) *
Jagex has very strange marketing plans and I struggled to understand how less hype is good. I guess if they release too much, people will start to hype the game up a little too much, and when it releases, everyone is disappointed and flames Jagex. But this is rather extreme. The last topic added to the 'Confirmed News' was about Stellar Dawn being Mechscape's name. That was posted over a month ago and technically, wasn't even released by Jagex.

Other games inform the public of the release date months in advance. In some cases, close to a whole year before the game hits stores or the internet. Jagex has been making Mechscape for like 4 years or something. I'm sure they would know a date or at least the month in which they want to release it. How hard would it be to tell us that? "Hey dedicated Mechscape fans, we originally told you that we were aiming to release our new game in January '10. Due to unforeseen issues, this will now be pushed back to February '10. Sorry for this, but we at Jagex like to keep our customers in the loop. Love MMG." How hard is that?

I agree with other users, we aren't asking for screenshots or gameplay videos, just a little info. How about telling us what the 4th race is? I'm not sure if that has been confirmed, but it sure would create some positive hype.


Hello there, I do agree with the last part with: "I agree with ... etc" but read my post and say what you think about it :) If you want.
Fireske
QUOTE (Stan @ Oct 5 2009, 06:39 PM) *
Hello there, I do agree with the last part with: "I agree with ... etc" but read my post and say what you think about it :) If you want.


Hey Stan biggrin.gif

What you said was good. I'm glad someone defends Jagex, as they don't get much sympathy here, or on the Offical Runescape Forums.

I hope I didn't appear too mean or ungrateful towards Jagex in my previous post. They do a great job and I love Runescape and I can't wait for Mechscape to be released. I just think they could tell us a little more, but like you said, they are making the game, and they can do what they want.

I'm sure they will release some more information in the near future. And hopefully that promised Q&A will be soon. biggrin.gif
Hayaemsay
QUOTE (Stan @ Oct 5 2009, 08:37 PM) *
If Jagex wants to say *Soon* Then let them. THEY are making the game, and they can release info whenever they like. We must be happy that we got an AUDIO track, Concept Art, interviews etc. We should be happy with what we got and stop whining. I’m sure that Jagex will release some new news about Code name MechScape soon. Andrew Gower even said it.

It may be their game, but if they want people to play their game then they should keep people interested in their game.
XZer0X
Less hype is good but no hype is awful!

I think Jagex should let us have a bit more MS stuff to speculate, whether it's a picture,another audio track to listen to. heck give us a Trailer of the latest game so we can go "Hey look at that! that looks Awesome!"
Not keep quiet and make their fans go "yeah, we know nothing bout this game and since it's Jagex it's gonna be crap..."

jmb
I don't believe the lack of information is totally driven by their secrecy, it seems to me that they started a train of information a few months ago when we got concept art and music tracks. At that point they were counting down to launch. Then for some reason, that all stopped. I think that there was some sort of internal debate going on at that point over core game ideas that means they are changing the game and thus development effectively was put back by months.

At some point a stream of further information will be made available and hopefully that will lead directly to the game being launched. For now though the countdown to launch appears to be on hold.
ZarkonisR
I had a dream about MechScape last night. It was like RuneScape, but worse. And then I came here, and you guys were all in a fit about it sucking. Weird dream.

Anyway, just wait until 2010. We should see it around then.
Human
Most stuff we got about mechscape these 3 months were stuff we all leaked.
Machined
There is currently no proof that the actual game Mechscape actually exists. Concept art is pre-development and 1 soundtrack does not make me convinced. With all the recent things that happened I am currently calling Mechscape "vaporware", and that shall stay like that until I see proof of an actual game, a screenshot, vid or something else that proves it's existence. Everything that could prove it's existence so far has been delayed.
Pliigi
QUOTE (Machined @ Oct 5 2009, 07:56 AM) *
There is currently no proof that the actual game Mechscape actually exists. Concept art is pre-development and 1 soundtrack does not make me convinced. With all the recent things that happened I am currently calling Mechscape "vaporware", and that shall stay like that until I see proof of an actual game, a screenshot, vid or something else that proves it's existence. Everything that could prove it's existence so far has been delayed.

Umm what? ermm.gif

MSW's placement on the supported fansite list isn't proof? The interviews aren't proof?
oribital
QUOTE (Hayaemsay @ Oct 5 2009, 10:43 AM) *
QUOTE (Stan @ Oct 5 2009, 08:37 PM) *
If Jagex wants to say *Soon* Then let them. THEY are making the game, and they can release info whenever they like. We must be happy that we got an AUDIO track, Concept Art, interviews etc. We should be happy with what we got and stop whining. I’m sure that Jagex will release some new news about Code name MechScape soon. Andrew Gower even said it.

It may be their game, but if they want people to play their game then they should keep people interested in their game.


exactly, Jagex are way too confident, but their losing a lot of loyal players because of it, they seem not to care about who plays their game anymore, aslong as the players keep paying it's good for them.

I was shocked when Blizzard anounced 3th expansion with a TRAILER of WoW 2-3 years before it's out. it made me want to play a game that won't come in the near future. I would actualy still play WoW if it wasn't so time consuming, it's a great game but sucks your life in a game.

i mean, announcing a trailer with all the features of a game 2 years before it's out.... thats what i call good way to get players but hey Blizzard have even more money and confidence then Jagex, guess they won't mind if some people didn't like the "hype" so early on.
Machined
QUOTE (Pliigi @ Oct 5 2009, 02:59 PM) *
QUOTE (Machined @ Oct 5 2009, 07:56 AM) *
There is currently no proof that the actual game Mechscape actually exists. Concept art is pre-development and 1 soundtrack does not make me convinced. With all the recent things that happened I am currently calling Mechscape "vaporware", and that shall stay like that until I see proof of an actual game, a screenshot, vid or something else that proves it's existence. Everything that could prove it's existence so far has been delayed.

Umm what? ermm.gif

MSW's placement on the supported fansite list isn't proof? The interviews aren't proof?

Interviews are words, no actual proof. Who knows Mechscape is in a very early development phase. One dev said it's being polished and then an other one says it won't be out for a while yet. With the devs saying different things and things getting delayed/Fired people the future of Mechscape is becoming more and more unsure. There might be a game yes, and perhaps indeed being polished right now but some vaporware games were pretty far in development before being cancelled.
The problem here is that Jagex is so secret about Mechscape that it existence cannot be verified and every interview is the same. "It's different, like no other, we think we know how a scifi game should be, our game won't have traditional grind, etc". That really isn't much...
What are the skills? How does the game look? What is the PvE content? PvP content? Minigames? Info about races instead of a few names? How's gameplay? We know a few things but really not much.
Look at other games, at how they did it. Ok, some game companies went too far with the hype like Mythic with Warhammer Online but if you take a look at SWTOR for example you'll see an official forum with new information every week, and beta applications have started last week. That's what I call "healthy hype", everything they say is true and not too blown up but enough to get people pumped. What Jagex does right now is well, dodging and telling the same thing over and over. If Mechscape is truly in it's polish phase it shouldn't be too hard to just show a small sign of life to shows us what it is like.
If a company is too quiet people walk away and that is happening right now.
Trunkzta
your fail. lol they have already talked about mechscape. they have confirmed and spoken about it. its coming..

just nobody knows when. at this point they should really start giving us something. Ive been waiting for Dragonball Online for 3 years now. But there has at least been pictures and videos of the game in development. and now its going to be released in Korea around November (currently in beta testing). So if jagex doesnt pull it together then when the English version of DBO comes out, then im going there and going to forget about mechscape.

I expect an english DBO release around the first half of 2010. Its farther away then "mechscape" but im more excited to play that now.
Human
QUOTE (Machined @ Oct 5 2009, 03:22 PM) *
QUOTE (Pliigi @ Oct 5 2009, 02:59 PM) *
QUOTE (Machined @ Oct 5 2009, 07:56 AM) *
There is currently no proof that the actual game Mechscape actually exists. Concept art is pre-development and 1 soundtrack does not make me convinced. With all the recent things that happened I am currently calling Mechscape "vaporware", and that shall stay like that until I see proof of an actual game, a screenshot, vid or something else that proves it's existence. Everything that could prove it's existence so far has been delayed.

Umm what? ermm.gif

MSW's placement on the supported fansite list isn't proof? The interviews aren't proof?

Interviews are words, no actual proof. Who knows Mechscape is in a very early development phase. One dev said it's being polished and then an other one says it won't be out for a while yet. With the devs saying different things and things getting delayed/Fired people the future of Mechscape is becoming more and more unsure. There might be a game yes, and perhaps indeed being polished right now but some vaporware games were pretty far in development before being cancelled.
The problem here is that Jagex is so secret about Mechscape that it existence cannot be verified and every interview is the same. "It's different, like no other, we think we know how a scifi game should be, our game won't have traditional grind, etc". That really isn't much...
What are the skills? How does the game look? What is the PvE content? PvP content? Minigames? Info about races instead of a few names? How's gameplay? We know a few things but really not much.
Look at other games, at how they did it. Ok, some game companies went too far with the hype like Mythic with Warhammer Online but if you take a look at SWTOR for example you'll see an official forum with new information every week, and beta applications have started last week. That's what I call "healthy hype", everything they say is true and not too blown up but enough to get people pumped. What Jagex does right now is well, dodging and telling the same thing over and over. If Mechscape is truly in it's polish phase it shouldn't be too hard to just show a small sign of life to shows us what it is like.
If a company is too quiet people walk away and that is happening right now.


My 'Jagex are going to release some mechscape info this month' is tingling
Pliigi
QUOTE (Machined @ Oct 5 2009, 08:22 AM) *
Interviews are words, no actual proof. Who knows Mechscape is in a very early development phase. One dev said it's being polished and then an other one says it won't be out for a while yet. With the devs saying different things and things getting delayed/Fired people the future of Mechscape is becoming more and more unsure. There might be a game yes, and perhaps indeed being polished right now but some vaporware games were pretty far in development before being cancelled.
The problem here is that Jagex is so secret about Mechscape that it existence cannot be verified and every interview is the same. "It's different, like no other, we think we know how a scifi game should be, our game won't have traditional grind, etc". That really isn't much...
What are the skills? How does the game look? What is the PvE content? PvP content? Minigames? Info about races instead of a few names? How's gameplay? We know a few things but really not much.
Look at other games, at how they did it. Ok, some game companies went too far with the hype like Mythic with Warhammer Online but if you take a look at SWTOR for example you'll see an official forum with new information every week, and beta applications have started last week. That's what I call "healthy hype", everything they say is true and not too blown up but enough to get people pumped. What Jagex does right now is well, dodging and telling the same thing over and over. If Mechscape is truly in it's polish phase it shouldn't be too hard to just show a small sign of life to shows us what it is like.
If a company is too quiet people walk away and that is happening right now.


I agree with you that Jagex's current strategy doesn't exactly instill confidence, but I think saying the game will be canceled is going a bit far. Even from a purely financial view, Jagex has put a lot of money into MechScape and I doubt they'd want to have just thrown that all away.
Crash Jordan
QUOTE (Human @ Oct 6 2009, 01:35 AM) *
Other games have grind like you said.

But Runescape is one that has tons of grind.



QUOTE (Pliigi @ Oct 6 2009, 02:34 AM) *
QUOTE (Machined @ Oct 5 2009, 08:22 AM) *
Interviews are words, no actual proof. Who knows Mechscape is in a very early development phase. One dev said it's being polished and then an other one says it won't be out for a while yet. With the devs saying different things and things getting delayed/Fired people the future of Mechscape is becoming more and more unsure. There might be a game yes, and perhaps indeed being polished right now but some vaporware games were pretty far in development before being cancelled.
The problem here is that Jagex is so secret about Mechscape that it existence cannot be verified and every interview is the same. "It's different, like no other, we think we know how a scifi game should be, our game won't have traditional grind, etc". That really isn't much...
What are the skills? How does the game look? What is the PvE content? PvP content? Minigames? Info about races instead of a few names? How's gameplay? We know a few things but really not much.
Look at other games, at how they did it. Ok, some game companies went too far with the hype like Mythic with Warhammer Online but if you take a look at SWTOR for example you'll see an official forum with new information every week, and beta applications have started last week. That's what I call "healthy hype", everything they say is true and not too blown up but enough to get people pumped. What Jagex does right now is well, dodging and telling the same thing over and over. If Mechscape is truly in it's polish phase it shouldn't be too hard to just show a small sign of life to shows us what it is like.
If a company is too quiet people walk away and that is happening right now.


I agree with you that Jagex's current strategy doesn't exactly instill confidence, but I think saying the game will be canceled is going a bit far. Even from a purely financial view, Jagex has put a lot of money into MechScape and I doubt they'd want to have just thrown that all away.


Yeah, it doesn't make much sense to cancel it, a good game or not.

I think we may see something released in the next month.
chaosgone
QUOTE (Hoboh @ Oct 4 2009, 08:52 PM) *
QUOTE (Dracul @ Oct 4 2009, 07:49 PM) *
in some cases john, players have lost interest alltogether, not just mere lower interest.


I don't plan on playing MechScape past trying it anymore, when before I was uber pumped about it. I just go on this forum now for the lulz and a good read.

I'm getting to be the same way. At first, I was so excited about it. Now, with the little information we do have about it, I'm thinking it will not be that fun to play. I'm now thinking about just looking for a new game to play.

When Jagex was working on RS2 (the current Runescape), they would release screen pictures of the new version from time to time. They should be at least far enough along with the Mechscape game to show us what it looks like.
Yeti
Why should they bother? The most important thing is that they are making the game. They don't need to tell us anything
Darth Irule
We will get some more information from them. Once the game is released that is, or if Ren or PC can get them to give us some more concept or what not.
EchoNova
Well, if they're trying to get rid of the hype, they're succeeding. My excitement over Mechscape is practically 0 at this point...

I'm starting to wonder if the game will be any good at all. If it was, don't you think Jagex would be proud enough to show of a few measly screenshots?
puppychow
yeah, honestly. This is really making me loose interest. Soon soon soon... thats all we hear! come on jagex. really... Im not even CLOSE as excited as i was half to 1 year ago.
MadMech13
QUOTE (EchoNova @ Oct 5 2009, 03:10 PM) *
Well, if they're trying to get rid of the hype, they're succeeding. My excitement over Mechscape is practically 0 at this point...

I'm starting to wonder if the game will be any good at all. If it was, don't you think Jagex would be proud enough to show of a few measly screenshots?

Exactly how I feel.
Vee3
Waiting, with no information, just heightens my hype. The less concept art they give us, the more surprised I'll be. Now I wouldn't mind a video or 2 a month before its beta release. But other than that I am completely content with waiting.
loganmaddox
we are the new age version of duke nukem forever fans.
urantis
They did say they wanted it to be a surprise. wink.gif
Bladepaul
Surprise! Buttsecks!
Trunkzta
QUOTE (Bladepaul @ Oct 6 2009, 02:14 AM) *
Surprise! Buttsecks!


i lol'd
Shadowgoomba
Well, let's be honest with ourselves here: I doubt that you're going to avoid the game once the beta is out. You'll play it, and like it, then yay Mechscape.

Although, it's good that many of you have lost interest completely, cause then you won't get disappointed so often.
TehBigGun
QUOTE (Bladepaul @ Oct 5 2009, 09:14 PM) *
Surprise! Buttsecks!

No Im defenseless!
SnakeX
I just hope its gonna be mac compatible or im gonna be in trouble. sad.gif

hmm there could be no mechscape. Could be just a little excitement put in our sessions of grinding at the grind fest.. Maby jagex lied to us and faked the interviews! mad.gif
Hayaemsay
QUOTE (SnakeX @ Oct 7 2009, 01:31 PM) *
I just hope its gonna be mac compatible or im gonna be in trouble. sad.gif

MechScape will be web client based like RuneScape confused.gif
HollowaysEve
QUOTE (blykon5 @ Oct 4 2009, 08:25 PM) *
"We're sorry to inform you that codename : MechScape , has been canceled.

MMG"


Yeti
what do you expect them to tell us? They already said they don't want to give us spoilers
Alex
QUOTE (loganmaddox @ Oct 6 2009, 02:51 AM) *
we are the new age version of duke nukem forever fans.


I think that far too often.
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