Alright, so Runescape has Player Owned Houses, and a skill to go with it, but what are they really good for? You can train prayer faster, get cheaper teleports, and have parties, but they aren't essential or even necessary, and a good construction level is a somewhat rare thing. At 70 construction, I am ranked in the top 50k for construction. It was intended as a money sink for the Runescape economy, to fix problems of inflation that massive amounts of high alching were causing, but in Mechscape, what will Jagex do different with them?

Im assuming they will have them, as a POH gives a bit more of a sense of realism to the game. Will Jagex give more customization for POH's, more styles, and get rid of the "box rooms" constraints? Or will they give you pre-set options for your POH's to save server space? Will POH's become more important in gameplay, and will they be worth having?

My suggestion to Jagex is that they basiclly make your POH your personal bank. Vehicles, mounts (If they have them), weapons, armour, and other items that you wouldn't store in a bank should go in your POH, just how people in real life store all their belongings in their homes. Im assuming each race would have their own style of houses, but Jagex could allow for you to have homes in multiple locations, so each POH you have could give you an extra bank. Having more locations would take more server space, but if they created 100 pre-set designs, they would only have to save 100 different types of houses, compared to the hundreds of thousands they have to save on Runescape right now.


Those are just some ideas to throw out there, what do you think?


Edit: It's a bit crude, but if I were given full customization for my house on Mechscape, and I could build my house on an asteroid, heres a MS Paint blueprint.

hm, i like the general idea, i think, the bulk of the game should be almost fully player-customizable, including poh's. I think also the Player owned house should act as a personal bank as well with its own entrance pin seperate from any other pin.

If they have POH's I would like them to actually be customisable. The Runescape one isn't at all and all the rooms have preset areas which really makes them less fun.

A good idea might be the bank, and there should be a portal to take you back to where you came from (Teleported) perhaps, and maybe you can employ the bankers, and shop keepers? And make your own shops..

Ooh, good idea, perhaps there could be suppliers which you pay to send you supplys and you employ people to sell them in a city or something (Npc Maybe?)

I was also thinking your vehicles could hold alot of your stuff, so when your mining, for example, you could store your ores in your vehicle, and when it gets completely full, you could take it to someone who will transport the ores else where (an npc, like someone suggested). I don't like the idea of alot of banks holding all your items, in real life its not feasible. If I store a hundred gold bars in a bank in real life, and go to another branch of the bank to withdraw a hundred gold bars, they will make me go to the first bank. A POH storage area would solve that problem of feasibility, but honestly, its a game and they might not even care. As for customization, allowing the rooms to be other than the squares would take a whole lot of server space, but who knows what they are working on. I somehow doubt they will drift away from the square rooms, as they still haven't on Runescape, and Jagex says it would be very difficult. If they do, I can only imagine the architectural masterpiece my home would be... Hopefully, they will at least allow a lot more styles of walls, flooring, and doors, and allow you to mix and match them instead of 5 or 6 pre-set bundles that don't allow any personalization. Also, allowing you to choose an "imaginary" location would be cool, as I want my home to be floating on it's own asteroid in outer space.

The first part is a bit like the servants, but not standing next to you, clever thinking

I added a picture of what my house would look like if I could design it how I wanted it to my first post. I tried to use room ideas that would both apply to Mechscape, and mimick the rooms of Runescape POH's. The virtual reality room would be like the Runescape combat room, since I doubt in the future people will be barbaric enough to fight in their own homes like we do in Runescape. The hydroponics lab is a garden basiclly, and the blue halls are made of glass, while the grey rooms are actually like concrete buildings. The landing pad would be where your ships land untill they drive into the garage, which serves as your "portal" to your house. The laboratory acts as your workshop, but I imagined you would be able to make customizations to your vehicles in your garage as well. I also included bathrooms, because, well...if you gotta go you gotta go. I doubt they will have any affect to gameplay, but you could do a little emote and step into your germ vaporizer shower (while still wearing clothes). The storage room is for storing items too big to carry around or store in the actual bank, like I mentioned before.

Assassin, I like where your getting on the servant idea. Your servants could actually leave your house and come pick up stuff, and you would pay them of course. They could live in your house, and you need a bedroom for them like on Runescape, but they would only be around when you call them.

I don't mind the square rooms, but I'd like it if the walls could be themed more, like having stuff growing on the walls and such. Of course, being a woodcutting addict, it's just me.

The portal concept still works for sci-fi. Think about it; step in, step out.

Like someone was saying, the servant concept works. My idea is to make the servants robots. Since the name is MechScape.



Thanks,
MS4Life.

things i want in a mechscape POH are.
- Every one gets a house (FTP gets only one simple house choice in one location while members can build addons and change there house.
- Any thing that you could not give to a real bank you have to store in your house (food, guns, transport.
- You should be able to do all non gathering skills in your house. by buying workers ( mechanic, physicist, engineer).
- You should be able to teleport yourself from any major city to your POH.
- Members in a guild should get a guild POH which is better than a normal POH but cost a lot to rent .
- EBay style market that you can access from your house and buy other players items .
- Gives you a way to modify your transport (greater fire power, larger cargo, or faster, ext) but it is an even trade off so if you add to one aspect decrease from the others.

Agree with pretty much everything but the self-teleporting, guild POH having to be rented as opposed to be bought.

It's awesome, but I bet it won't be like that

The portals could work, but if we had scientific portals in real life, there would be no point of vehicles really, as we could just "beam up" (Star Trek ftw) everything we wanted to move. We know vehicles will be used in Mechscape, and since I suggested being able to store them in your house, its only fitting that you could fly your spaceship to your own house.


Having a clan or guild house is a very good idea, and I honestly wish they had something like that on Runescape, however you should buy it, not rent it, and the founder of the clan/guild should be the one responsible for building it. Having access to a "GE" in your home would not be good however, as people would never leave their POH. I think the POH should have more uses, but at the same time I don't want everyone locked up in their homes enjoying themselves then only going out when they want stuff. (Sounds like real life, kind of boring)


Who knows? Maybe they will have a build mode with tools similar to games like "The Sims 2" If so, that would take alot of server space to save everyone's house, but it would allow great customization. Nobody would have the exact same house. Maybe, to counteract people building extremely complex and large homes (which wastes server space), each wall, door, and window in your house costs alot of money, plus you have to literally build it, which could take a few hours of playing time to complete a house similar to the one I designed. It would be kind of cool to watch your character struggle with space hammers and nails to build a simple wall, instead of just clicking and it magically appearing.

You have some points but you can't get everywhere by stepping into portal. Who in their right mind would just put one portal in his house and another in the void lands where there are high temperatures. I believe most electronics shouldn't stay in the heat or else KA-PUT!

Im just saying, extensive use of portals would make vehicles void for transportation.

I just meant for them to be like in places habitable like on RS. And I hope houses on MS have more use.

I wouldn't really use my PoH as a house per say, but as a gathering point.

It'd be a cantina... in the desert... with a special band playing a catchy tune... they'd be: Bigrin B'an and the Gogal Nedes and they'd have seven members.

Oh and it'd have a huge docking port

Would we have player owned houses or maybe player owned spaceships?
And what do you think of when you're thinking of 'mounts'?
Wouldn't those just be parts of your suit?

Enough asked. My POH would probably contain lots of spaceships and a portal system.

(BTW, portals don't have to make normal transport obsolete, try playing "portal" if you don't believe me)

Now I wonder, why do I bother joining up for release of MechScape :P
Im not into much of these Sci-Fi Games.
But im gunna check it out anyhow.

Alot of people have been suggesting that certain races, like the Piglii, might have mounts instead of vehicles, since they look more organic than technological. Mounts could be anything from the Tan-Tan's from Star Wars, to the many different creatures the Locust ride on Gears of War. I think we will have player owned spaceships, and you can customize parts and styles and such, but for the most part it will not be customizable. Having a customizable boat on Runescape would be the same thing basiclly, you have a boat, and can change a few things, but its still the same basic boat.


Im just saying, if portals were extremely easy to build and maintain, normal transports would seem pointless, as it would be cheaper to just send stuff through portals, but of course, portals probally will exist in Mechscape, but I think they will be large, expensive to use, and somewhat rare compared to Runescape. I don't think portals will be an important part of the POH, since you can fly around with your space ship.

I think spaceships are still a possibility. It might be easy to build a house, but it isn't as convenient as a spaceship, and you can still turn it into a home. Or maybe we have both.
(And wouldn't the mount just be a part of the body, more like a organic part of the equipment?)



Yeah. Portals will be a bit like runescape teleport portals in POHs, only quite a bit more expensive requiring much more recources to use. Maybe you have to be at the other side before being able to open a portal, so they're only a way to go home, not the other way.

To the portals would make vehicles obsolete, maybe they only have a way of sending things a limited amount of way. So we have to teleport from our ships to our houses. What I think is more likely though is POS- Player Owned Ships. Would act in the same way as POH's except better.

Play that same song again! (Now that would've gone over all your heads if you haven't seen "Blue Harvest" (Family Guy Star Wars spoof.)

I just hope it isn't like RS construction which doesn't allow for customisation or even furniture placement.

Exactly, whatever we have, wether it be a POH, POS, or both, I just want more customization options. I expect there to be both Player Owned Houses and Player Owned Ships, but I bet the POS will have customizable parts, (wings, fuselage, weapons, cockpit, etc), while the inside of the ship will be very basic and have only a few parts you can change, while a POH allows generally more freedom in design.

Lol, same here Mcharger.
Both Player ownd houses and ships.

Off topic, but I bet mechscape is so delayed because they keep looking at our ideas and adding them lol.... It's all your guys fault!!!! Jk. Anyway, sounds cool, but if weer talking realism, then the only things banks would store is money, so your house would have to hold everything you have.

. . . Or ship perhaps, I would prefer the ship idea, if you were going to somewhere really distant you could turn on autopilot and do some 'spacey' stuff in your ship.

Yes, but you could have a permanent home as well. As for the "auto-pilot", I would expect flying would not be exactly player controlled, but something like when you take a boat somewhere on Runescape. If that were true, then going on your POS would not necessarily mean you have to go somewhere, so it would be a viable storage option, but I think if your going to be able to have a ship, why not have a permanent home?

There are so many uses for a house that I wont even bother to list them...look in a knowledge database before you talk shit about something

EDIT: If you reply to this, you will most likely want me to list some uses beyond prayer and parties as you have mentioned, so I guess I will anyways...Lecterns for making tabs, telescope for star spotting, costume room for skill capes, armor sets and ALL treasure trail items (that makes how much bank space free?), games room for entertainment, combat rooms for fun (and some people even train with them), NPC's to kill if you choose to put them into your dungeon (dragons, demons, etc.).......The list goes on and on

Construction is bullshitly expensive, but can be rewarding once you get to a desired level. Gilded alter, making teletabs, killing your own personal dragon, and having basically an extra bank to keep your stuff...What's not to like if you can afford it?

Assuming MechScape has a variety of uses for a home in the way RuneScape does, it would be a great addition...But if there is only a want and not a need, I'd rather have the game come out even a day sooner and not have the content.

Okay, your telling me that the Runescape POH is good, and that I'm talking crap about it?

1. I have 70 construction, a 5m house, and I know just a little about a POH, so don't say I don't. In your lists of uses for a POH, you fail to mention it is useful for having clan meetings, having portals, having a charged glory, and can help low levels train cooking.

2. The Runescape POH has not been updated since the costume room, which came out 2 months after construction was released. The only reason it hasn't? People don't care. Jagex is not going to waste their time on something they already know nobody beyond a few rich people will want to use. My suggestion is that they take a different approach to POH's for Mechscape, instead of following the model they set with Runescape.

3. From what we know, alot of Mechscape content will be player customizable, and I am suggesting that there should be greater customization in the POH's, not just box room's with pre-set furniture hotspots.

4. It's clear that you read the first 2 sentances of this thread, and did not read on, so read the whole thread before you say I am "talking shit". Most likely you will not even read this, in fact, to prove you read this, put your reply in blue.

Reply in blue??

Actually I read your posts and nobody elses, so if you replied to anything people said I did not notice and did not really care =\

1. 5M for a house is nothing if you want to put decent content into it (although at 70 construction I guess there wouldn't be much to spend your money on. I did not mention the portal rooms because you already did, why the hell would you have a meaningful clan meeting in game when you could have it either through a proper messaging system or through a voice system such as TeamSpeak or Ventrilo, and training cooking in your house just being L.

2. I see a great many people using there houses and the houses of others daily for fun activities and training. Maybe it does not have the unique finesse which you desire, but it is enough to draw a lot people in for a good time or for some good XP. Obviously the skill requires money, I am not refuting that. But any skill that you want to do in a reasonable frame of time requires money.

3. Drawing out an aspect of the game in detail, unless with a great purpose, is a waste of time. If you want your shit to be unique, don't build it and say to your friends "look at the way the wind blows by my air space".

4. You, sir, are an idiot.

My time in RS blended with my interaction with people in my time at work has made me gain a realization that people in general do not think about the big picture. One aspect of game play does not have to be perfect, so long as the others are not done half-ass. You may argue that the time Jagex has spent on MechScape means that every aspect should be awesome and everything that every game isn't, but the realization you must gain is that there will be things you can tolerate, even things you like, then things you love. But you will not love everything.

I just like to flame people for saying unreasonable things, and successfully do so on a daily basis. While it is of course wholeheartedly welcome to share things you like/want/need/love, there is no reason to degrade current content however much it could be improved upon in the eyes of some. Just remember that it does not make the game, it is just apart of it.

First off, your only 71 construction, so you haven't put anything more into your house than I have, and I bet I spent more time planning mine than you did yours. Besides that, this is my 2nd member's account with 70 construction, and I have a 6m house on my 1st account, so I know I've spent more time enjoying construction than you, so don't assume I am flaming something when I lightly criticize it.

I'm an idiot for suggesting to improve content? I made you reply in blue because your response was typical of people who don't read, but instead you just enjoy flaming people? Thats cool...I guess. I never degraded content, I said there was a problem. I love construction, it was half the reason I became a member, but I was disappointed by it, and I don't want Mechscape to be the same way, and other people agree with me. Flaming people shouldn't be something to be proud of, especially in an "Ideas and Suggestions" thread. It's a suggestion, seriously dude I think I speak for everyone when I say nobody likes a flamer.

My level in construction does not matter all that much, I have helped many a friend through there way training construction and ultimately planning there house (the most expensive house plan ran north of 60M).

You aren't an idiot for suggesting to improve content, you are an idiot for making the suggestion seem as important to the game and how you will enjoy it as you have been (as shown by your passion in your replies to me ;))

Obviously nobody likes a flamer, but everyone needs someone to dislike. In between my words of hate there are words of wisdom, and when I come home from work tired it is my way of relaying wisdom to the world. However much of being an ass I turn it into, which is just plain funny.

My whole point is that I never said construction is bad, it has problems. Your trying to argue that it is flawless, or rather not important enough in the scheme of things to improve? Trust me, people think you are the idiot for being an "ass", not me for enjoyng something I criticize. I criticize my country and it's government, but does that mean I do not like it? No, I love my country, enjoy my rights, but I still believe there are problems that should be fixed, as with Construction and POH's. If you can't respect that, then please, don't post on this topic.

I can see how places to service your vechiles and equipment such as a house would be really useful. I was even thinking of clans owning large space stations where they can rally and plan attacks as well as park their ships.

Clan owned space stations would be nice, also giving a little more customization to POH's is really what I want, even if its as simple as adding the choice of a circular room or a square room. Wall themes would be great too, just to give your house a bit more color into it.

Thats a great idea, I really want clans to be more involved in actual Mechscape content than they are in Runescape.

Any type of customization, such as chosing the furniture hotspots go, more rooms shapes and sizes, and different wall themes would work wonders for POH's.

Well both of you seem to care a lot about houses, but one person wants it in the beta and one just wants it sometime. Now part in peace, please, and stop flaming.

Nobody is flaming anybody anymore.

What I said earlier regarding a post Charger made:

Of course, you could have a home, as well as the small bases you are speaking of, since nobody exactly keeps a gas station or armoury at their home in real life. You go to other places for things that you need alot of, like the grocery store in real life, and I would expect Mechscape to be similar to that.

A Grocery store..would seem pretty fun and hilarious at the same time ha. I wonder what type of food choices we'll be given.

Hopefully alot more choices than we have now..

Soup Capsules
Soda Capsules
Pie Capsules
Corn Capsules

The list goes on and on..

Food could be like in powder form, like protein supplements they have right now. That'd be boring though, and I'm sure there will be a large cuisine to enjoy.

Nice layout. Yea having player owned houses wouldbe awesome!

I hope it functions like the bases in the MMORPG City of heroes/Villians. In that game, you could organize events with your guilds, invent objects, teleport to diffrent places and start team missions. I hope Jagex looks at that game for ideas, I would love to see other simular aspects of City of Heroes in Mechscape.

For the POH's, we really be able to access our house from multiple cities. Unike in runescape, where if we have multiple gardens with portals, we will only be able to access our house from the city that the portals are set to.

Honestly, I picture POH's being like a literal location in the game, and not having a specific portal that goes to a made up location. You can fly to your house, or teleport there will portals and stuff. Access to your POH could come from almost anywhere.

I've found out quite a bit about MechScape that isn't even listed on this site, and I'm pretty sure isn't publically available yet. Check out a first look at MechScape in this video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFeGC2M5ym0