Decimae
May 4 2009, 10:25 AM
I got in quite late, but still got quite something.
I'm sorry for the white borders and that it isn't sorted.
The info about mechscape is a bit at the end, that was the first time a pmod displayed my question.
I can't post on the runescape official forums, so can somebody post it for me there? EDIT: Ty Mat amr for posting.

(He's talking about a maxed out skillcape when he's saying "I hope it isn't pink")
And BH is probably coming out soon, I think he said that just before I got in, a pmod repeated that I think.
P.S. If you think it's odd that this is my first post, it's because I saw previous chat's here, and I felt almost obligated to post it here

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Thank you very much for posting.
Relevant quotes:
Mistressjana: Is mechscape true and is it nearly ready?
Andrew: Mechscape is [true], and isn't nearly ready :)
...
Cute Snail: Will mechscape have skills and higscore just like RS?
Andrew: No it doesnt have skills in the same way, its quite different!
Ahh! He said its not nearly done, but then he added a ':)' at the end, which makes me suspicious.
QUOTE (Ed5 @ May 4 2009, 11:39 AM)

Ahh! He said its not nearly done, but then he added a ':)' at the end, which makes me suspicious.
Andrew likes the smiley, he uses it a lot. I'm not reading too much into him smiling. I think we've still got a few months left to wait.
QUOTE (Ren @ May 4 2009, 06:44 AM)

QUOTE (Ed5 @ May 4 2009, 11:39 AM)

Ahh! He said its not nearly done, but then he added a ':)' at the end, which makes me suspicious.
Andrew likes the smiley, he uses it a lot. I'm not reading too much into him smiling. I think we've still got a few months left to wait.
Darn. Well I would agree with you, seeing as there hasn't been much activity in the MechScape side of Jagex.
Alex
May 4 2009, 10:47 AM
QUOTE (Ren @ May 4 2009, 11:44 AM)

QUOTE (Ed5 @ May 4 2009, 11:39 AM)

Ahh! He said its not nearly done, but then he added a ':)' at the end, which makes me suspicious.
Andrew likes the smiley, he uses it a lot. I'm not reading too much into him smiling. I think we've still got a few months left to wait.
Who doesn't like a good smiley? :)
Good quotes though, I am awfully intrigued as to how the skills will work in MS.
Rick Astley
May 4 2009, 10:54 AM
Andrew wanna make a proper green screen area?
I might wanna go back to making RS videos again ....
Psioptics
May 4 2009, 10:57 AM
Jagex should just be done with the whole 'soon', 'not soon', 'ready when it's ready' malarkey and just make an announcement somewhere saying 'Idfk when MechScape will be released so stop asking'.
The skills comment is definitely a nice one though. :)
QUOTE (Psioptics @ May 4 2009, 11:57 AM)

Jagex should just be done with the whole 'soon', 'not soon', 'ready when it's ready' malarkey and just make an announcement somewhere saying 'Idfk when MechScape will be released so stop asking'.

I think that's basically what Gerhard meant when he said "we can't give you a release date at the moment because large complex game development projects such as this one are extremely hard to estimate".
Alex
May 4 2009, 11:01 AM
QUOTE (Ren @ May 4 2009, 11:59 AM)

QUOTE (Psioptics @ May 4 2009, 11:57 AM)

Jagex should just be done with the whole 'soon', 'not soon', 'ready when it's ready' malarkey and just make an announcement somewhere saying 'Idfk when MechScape will be released so stop asking'.

I think that's basically what Gerhard meant when he said "we can't give you a release date at the moment because large complex game development projects such as this one are extremely hard to estimate".
Which you might know about, and we might know about but the average MS fan-to-be doesen't.
Jagex needs an announcement on the front page that it's not ready TBH.
HazZ
May 4 2009, 01:10 PM
This is all very interesting however I wish they could hurry up with MechScape...seriously we're all getting impatient....
JJ17400
May 4 2009, 01:17 PM
:( well atleast we know it won't be this month or next month.
Lord John
May 4 2009, 01:44 PM
Well now we know MS doesn't have "skills." What it will have is a mystery. :P
I'm looking forward to the BH, and I would laugh so hard if the cape was pink XD
QUOTE (Lord John @ May 4 2009, 02:44 PM)

Well now we know MS doesn't have "skills." What it will have is a mystery. :P
No, he said it doesn't have skills
in the same way. That to me implies it has skills, but not ones which you level up by grinding like in RuneScape.
Garanaw
May 4 2009, 02:45 PM
Woah, this is interesting ... When I read through it all quite quickly, I thought Andrew said "and it's nearly done", when he said "and it isn't nearly done"

But that thing about not having skills in the same way as RuneScape sounds very good!
urantis
May 4 2009, 03:08 PM
ugh...were gonna have to wait till summer for MS
great post though, it put me at somewhat of ease
Pliigi
May 4 2009, 04:11 PM
QUOTE
It isn't nearly ready :)

A green screen area? Awesome

Thanks for posting these
oribital
May 4 2009, 06:01 PM
I really hope it doesn't come in the early summer, so gief mechscape now or in 2010 plox :p
These skills starting to get mysterious, i'm thinking that it would be, getting xp by completing missions, but it won't be just, complete or fail but it would depend on how good you manage, so if you don't have skill, you don't get alot of xp :D
QUOTE (Ren @ May 4 2009, 09:02 AM)

QUOTE (Lord John @ May 4 2009, 02:44 PM)

Well now we know MS doesn't have "skills." What it will have is a mystery. :P
No, he said it doesn't have skills
in the same way. That to me implies it has skills, but not ones which you level up by grinding like in RuneScape.
Hopefully that doesn't mean that you will not be able to be the master of all of the skills. :|
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Maxman
May 4 2009, 06:48 PM
QUOTE (Ren @ May 4 2009, 05:44 AM)

QUOTE (Ed5 @ May 4 2009, 11:39 AM)

Ahh! He said its not nearly done, but then he added a ':)' at the end, which makes me suspicious.
Andrew likes the smiley, he uses it a lot. I'm not reading too much into him smiling. I think we've still got a few months left to wait.
Agreed.
That makes me mad. So why would they think it'd be ready by Q1 of '09?
QUOTE (Maxman @ May 4 2009, 07:48 PM)

That makes me mad. So why would they think it'd be ready by Q1 of '09?
They said that back in July 2008 I seem to recall. It's possible that they made a bad estimation, that they got more ambitious with the project or both. As Gerhard said it is extremely difficult to estimate complex game development projects, and as Henrique said they are bound not to some estimate they made ages ago but to quality.
urantis
May 4 2009, 08:11 PM
also
there trying to make it perfect.
There could have been some type of game in MS like bounty hunter that they had to rethink and redo...there could just be a number of things like that
Maxman
May 4 2009, 11:29 PM
QUOTE (Ren @ May 4 2009, 02:09 PM)

QUOTE (Maxman @ May 4 2009, 07:48 PM)

That makes me mad. So why would they think it'd be ready by Q1 of '09?
They said that back in July 2008 I seem to recall. It's possible that they made a bad estimation, that they got more ambitious with the project or both. As Gerhard said it is extremely difficult to estimate complex game development projects, and as Henrique said they are bound not to some estimate they made ages ago but to quality.
I know, but still. They could have made it more precise, maybe Q2 would be more reasonable. I know I'm not a game coder of any sort, but I just wish they were more accurate. That's hard to say, but I've been waiting.
urantis
May 5 2009, 12:26 AM
QUOTE (Maxman @ May 4 2009, 07:29 PM)

QUOTE (Ren @ May 4 2009, 02:09 PM)

QUOTE (Maxman @ May 4 2009, 07:48 PM)

That makes me mad. So why would they think it'd be ready by Q1 of '09?
They said that back in July 2008 I seem to recall. It's possible that they made a bad estimation, that they got more ambitious with the project or both. As Gerhard said it is extremely difficult to estimate complex game development projects, and as Henrique said they are bound not to some estimate they made ages ago but to quality.
I know, but still. They could have made it more precise, maybe Q2 would be more reasonable. I know I'm not a game coder of any sort, but I just wish they were more accurate. That's hard to say, but I've been waiting.
yeah...thinking that they said Q1
it seems to me that its ready but there fixing stuff right now
i mean they would have to have a reason to say Q1, they wouldn't just say it if it wasn't done or in the process of release
MadMech13
May 5 2009, 01:35 AM
Maybe he means it isn't nearly ready because it is ready!! Yeah, too optimistic. Oh well i can take the wait.
Funorb
May 5 2009, 01:56 AM
QUOTE (Ren @ May 4 2009, 10:44 AM)

QUOTE (Ed5 @ May 4 2009, 11:39 AM)

Ahh! He said its not nearly done, but then he added a ':)' at the end, which makes me suspicious.
Andrew likes the smiley, he uses it a lot. I'm not reading too much into him smiling. I think we've still got a few months left to wait.
haha thats quite funny xD
Well I think we worked out that Mechscape is not exactly imminent, they started the teasers and then abruptly stopped them again, idf it was coming out soon I would have expected an increase in info about the game, not a decrease, maybe they are re-doing parts of it.
The most interesting part was about skills not being the same. I think they will use abilities and achievements instead of xp, you will unlock these as you play the game, kinda like funorb. The rewards from playing will be these achievements that you can spend as points on your character, and you can't sell them, so no rwt and no grinding up xp by making countless items and selling them.
nerdboyxxx
May 5 2009, 06:22 AM
Okay now I am really expecting a major release here somewhere along the line, seriously I've been waiting quite a while and you kinda get impatient when they keep throwing words around.
SupaDavis
May 5 2009, 07:15 AM
I reckon it isn't nearly ready, it IS ready!
lol, good "interview" there, thanks for that!
ecto
May 7 2009, 08:16 PM
I find the in game green screen comment quite interesting, we'll have to wait and see how that turns out.
It's a shame that MS is "not nearly done" or whatever, I guess it will be a few more months. I can't really complain about the delay because I'd rather have a smoothly running game than a glitchfest.
EvilPig20
May 7 2009, 08:35 PM
QUOTE (Ren @ May 4 2009, 11:38 AM)

Relevant quotes:
Mistressjana: Is mechscape true and is it nearly ready?
Andrew: Mechscape is [true], and isn't nearly ready :)
If it isn't nearly ready it could be finished, or it could be further back ;)
Although it's very unlikely it's finished otherwise we might've seen some more shifting amoungst the MechScape team.
Davethewall
May 7 2009, 09:27 PM
Cant wait for this to come out!
Regor
May 7 2009, 11:39 PM
Looks cool, thanks for this :)
biokrakenrs
May 8 2009, 05:54 AM
err guys, think about it...
he isn't allowed to leak on thinks so he's obviously gonna tell us the opposite...
when he says 'not nearly done' that isn't a state you would say is it...
that would be used to reflect on the question awnsered.
So think about it, if it was not bieng released any time soon he would have made it more obvious,
maybe saying like 'Sorry but we've still got ages to go'.
(which they obviously have'nt giving the amount of times they have tryed to 'wind up the crank' on the exitement factor)
QUOTE (biokrakenrs @ May 8 2009, 06:54 AM)

err guys, think about it...
he isn't allowed to leak on thinks so he's obviously gonna tell us the opposite...
when he says 'not nearly done' that isn't a state you would say is it...
that would be used to reflect on the question awnsered.
So think about it, if it was not bieng released any time soon he would have made it more obvious,
maybe saying like 'Sorry but we've still got ages to go'.
(which they obviously have'nt giving the amount of times they have tryed to 'wind up the crank' on the exitement factor)
I don't think it's going to be ages away, but I also don't think it'll be super soon. I don't think they'd deliberately mislead people to make them think it was further away than it was as that'd soon come back to bite them.
killrrhubarb
May 8 2009, 10:58 AM
QUOTE (Ren @ May 8 2009, 09:38 PM)

QUOTE (biokrakenrs @ May 8 2009, 06:54 AM)

err guys, think about it...
he isn't allowed to leak on thinks so he's obviously gonna tell us the opposite...
when he says 'not nearly done' that isn't a state you would say is it...
that would be used to reflect on the question awnsered.
So think about it, if it was not bieng released any time soon he would have made it more obvious,
maybe saying like 'Sorry but we've still got ages to go'.
(which they obviously have'nt giving the amount of times they have tryed to 'wind up the crank' on the exitement factor)
I don't think it's going to be ages away, but I also don't think it'll be super soon. I don't think they'd deliberately mislead people to make them think it was further away than it was as that'd soon come back to bite them.
I agree with Ren. To be honest, I don't mind if it is released in 2010, as long it is as awesome as it can be when it finally is released. However, the quote "Mechscape is playable, but not ready" makes me think that mechscape is going to come out this year, but later on. Nice interview.
Lider V
May 8 2009, 04:52 PM
QUOTE (Max @ May 4 2009, 07:26 PM)

QUOTE (Ren @ May 4 2009, 09:02 AM)

QUOTE (Lord John @ May 4 2009, 02:44 PM)

Well now we know MS doesn't have "skills." What it will have is a mystery. :P
No, he said it doesn't have skills
in the same way. That to me implies it has skills, but not ones which you level up by grinding like in RuneScape.
Hopefully that doesn't mean that you will not be able to be the master of all of the skills. :|
(using 1 account)
I agree, I don't like having multiple accounts... I like having everything in a single character.
KingVivil
May 9 2009, 07:12 AM
QUOTE (Lider V @ May 8 2009, 06:52 PM)

QUOTE (Max @ May 4 2009, 07:26 PM)

QUOTE (Ren @ May 4 2009, 09:02 AM)

QUOTE (Lord John @ May 4 2009, 02:44 PM)

Well now we know MS doesn't have "skills." What it will have is a mystery. :P
No, he said it doesn't have skills
in the same way. That to me implies it has skills, but not ones which you level up by grinding like in RuneScape.
Hopefully that doesn't mean that you will not be able to be the master of all of the skills. :|
(using 1 account)
I agree, I don't like having multiple accounts... I like having everything in a single character.
So do i.
melmelcom
May 16 2009, 07:32 PM
New skills huh, can't wait :D
Pliigi Pixel
May 19 2009, 12:05 AM
Well now we know MS doesn't have "skills."
Ren
May 19 2009, 06:50 AM
QUOTE (Pliigi Pixel @ May 19 2009, 01:05 AM)

Well now we know MS doesn't have "skills."
Not quite - we know it doesn't have skills "in the same way".
Dracul
May 19 2009, 07:14 AM
True yes. Jagex hasn't stated that it won't have skills, its just that the Player Advancement system has been completely overhauled.
displayname
May 19 2009, 07:18 PM
with not finished, do they mean that they has some quests to complete. or some gameplay to fix, and glitches:S
Newtinboots
May 28 2009, 03:25 PM
Regarding the all 99's cape. In the maxed players section of the runescape forum they are running a poll and pink is by far the leader

One for the cape rack there
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