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Ren
http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/cn_busines...e.asp?id=393792

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No secret to keeping finger on the pulse
By Mike Scialom
JAGEX Software has always been resolutely low key about its corporate profile - no mean feat for a firm which employs 450 people on the science and business parks and would be quite justified in beating the drum about its £32m turnover (with a handy £14.5m profit).

A recent visitor to the firm's premises described the studio as "like a scene from a Bond movie", such is the secrecy and security.

But last month incoming chief executive Mark Gerhard took the trouble to explain how the Jagex shroud exists only because it serves a very useful purpose - as the firm running the world's largest-ever massively multi-player role-playing game (MMORPG), it is constantly patrolling its borders to ensure the integrity of the gaming world it has created remains accessible only to genuine enthusiasts.

"We face so many security issues it makes the banking and petro-chemical industries look benign," Gerhard says. "We've built our own web servers - we want security through obscurity. We're proud of our achievements. The only reason for any secrecy - there is a sense of paranoia - is that there are thousands of nasty people out there. We look after the safety of our players and ensure it's a fair, safe game for all."

Gerhard, 32, one of the young chief executives even for the computer zone, said Runescape had had security issues in the past. This is hardly surprising given the online gamesphere has six million active accounts and one million paid-up subscribers, and requires 160 servers in more than a dozen countries from Mexico to New Zealand.

In the most well-recorded incident, 300,000 accounts were banned a couple of years ago. "If you started a Runescape account today (Tuesday, 24 February)," Gerhard explains, "you would have to play 400,000 hours to get to the maximum skills level - that's one and a half years' playing time. People who wanted to fast-track were paying organisations to level up the account or they were buying a high-level account - you get situations where someone in China is playing for 16 hours a day.

"You also attract a certain criminal element and it's ongoing, we found out credit card fraud was being carried out by the same people selling levelling-up accounts, and this made them visible. The majority are really organised. The bit we tackled is synchronised trading, by and large from the Far East. These are professionals trying to reverse-engineer into the system, they probe our servers, and we have a team defending our proprietary systems - we have to be protective.

"We've just about put a stop to it," Gerhard says of the practices which saw characters with advanced skills selling for a pretty penny on eBay. "Although you find once you evolve, so do they. We've even had letters from syndicates complaining we're putting them out of business."

But it's not unusual for gaming firms to be secretive about what they're up to. With game development taking two years and costing up to £10m, the last thing you need is for information to leak out before the title hits the shelves.

Jagex's founder, Andrew Gower (a Cambridge graduate), and his brother Paul are well known for wanting to be left alone to get on with their creative roles. "Andrew doesn't actively seek publicity, but we work very closely together - he's just across the room hacking away at a laptop."

Gerhard's blue-chip security credentials are even more impeccable than outgoing ceo Geoff Iddison's, who was European ceo of PayPal before he took over as head of Jagex.

Although he had been cto for only a year, Gerhard's background in the City and in the development of security architecture for the national lotteries in Ireland, the UK and the US with G Tech, place him at the forefront of the anti-fraud systems sector.

But that's not to say he isn't interested in bringing new products to market. "We have new MMORPG games on the way aimed at an older audience. The games are what makes Jagex special. It's an awesome company with great staff and we just had the most successful two quarters in our history."

Jagex has more reach into the online gaming sector than any of its rivals. With Gerhard at the helm "putting massive emphasis on leveraging our technology", the firm's success story is likely to sprint and sprint.
TheAnnunaki
interesting
Man
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With game development taking two years and costing up to £10m, the last thing you need is for information to leak out before the title hits the shelves.

Hmm, I wonder if that is hinting at something?

Jagex will need to keep their security at top notch levels with Ren lurking around the corners.:p
PoultryChamp
I may not like Jagex for being very snotty about their users, but I do admire their security practices.

Oops wind just blew open my door at work.
Ren
QUOTE (Man @ Feb 24 2009, 04:22 PM) *
Hmm, I wonder if that is hinting at something?

The statement about games hitting the shelves is talking about the games industry in general, not Jagex in particular. I think it is more interesting that it says "We have new MMORPG games on the way aimed at an older audience", which if not a misquote could mean ThirdScape or some other new game is aimed at an older audience not a younger audience. If you read my research review thread you can see Henrique talking about RuneScape in the stores.
Stan
"We have new MMORPG games on the way aimed at an older audience."

Games... <-- = More.

Mechscape
'......' ?

Idk about that, but this is a great article.

~ Stan
Rick Astley
GAMES.....
Might be thirdscape thumbsup.gif
Noodle
Great Article

Gerhard > Andrew
Ren
QUOTE (Noodle @ Feb 24 2009, 05:10 PM) *
Gerhard > Andrew

Iddison was the former CEO, not Andrew.
Dux Bell0rum
QUOTE (Ren @ Feb 24 2009, 11:11 AM) *
QUOTE (Noodle @ Feb 24 2009, 05:10 PM) *
Gerhard > Andrew

Iddison was the former CEO, not Andrew.


I think they were referring to how the article mentioned Andrew being closed off more so, and now we have Gerhard who is way more open :p

Was an interesting read, and I guess we finally know how old Gerhard really is :p Hopefully he is with Jagex for a long time now.
Dirk
400,000 hours to max out all the skills? blink.gif I assume he means 200 million xp in each skill, because it only takes about 6,000 hours to get everything to 99 (from what I've heard).
Mechable
Interesting read, but I don't quite believe the '400,000 hours playing time' to max out your levels on Runescape. Surely that is not true? Particularly when you can train a few stats at once, such as Slayer, Hitpoints and Attack. And I really doubt all those with max stats on Runescape all played at least 400,000 hours each. Perhaps he meant to get 200m exp in every stat, which would make more sense but I'm still not entirely convinced.

Edit: Was just beaten in the post above :p
Man
QUOTE (Dirk389 @ Feb 24 2009, 12:26 PM) *
400,000 hours to max out all the skills? blink.gif I assume he means 200 million xp in each skill, because it only takes about 6,000 hours to get everything to 99 (from what I've heard).

It would take literally 6000 hours just to get runecrafting to 99, same with other skills like slayer and maybe farming.
Mechable
QUOTE (Man @ Feb 24 2009, 05:35 PM) *
QUOTE (Dirk389 @ Feb 24 2009, 12:26 PM) *
400,000 hours to max out all the skills? blink.gif I assume he means 200 million xp in each skill, because it only takes about 6,000 hours to get everything to 99 (from what I've heard).

It would take literally 6000 hours just to get runecrafting to 99, same with other skills like slayer and maybe farming.


Not true, it took me about 400-500 hours to get agility to 99, which is one of the slowest skills. I can't see a single stat taking anymore than 1000 hours, and this is for the extreme ones like Slayer and Runecrafting.
Man
QUOTE (Mechable @ Feb 24 2009, 12:39 PM) *
QUOTE (Man @ Feb 24 2009, 05:35 PM) *
QUOTE (Dirk389 @ Feb 24 2009, 12:26 PM) *
400,000 hours to max out all the skills? blink.gif I assume he means 200 million xp in each skill, because it only takes about 6,000 hours to get everything to 99 (from what I've heard).

It would take literally 6000 hours just to get runecrafting to 99, same with other skills like slayer and maybe farming.


Not true, it took me about 400-500 hours to get agility to 99, which is one of the slowest skills. I can't see a single stat taking anymore than 1000 hours, and this is for the extreme ones like Slayer and Runecrafting.

Well agility isnt exactly hard, more boring than anything else. You can easily get upwards of 60k+ exp per hour. While with runecrafting or slayer you would be thrilled to get 18-24k exp per hour.
Robinhoodrs
It was a nice read, thankyou.
WillandGrace
nice find ren,


im wondering wether it has a hint bout mechscape??

~w&g~
Neo
QUOTE (Mechable @ Feb 24 2009, 05:34 PM) *
but I don't quite believe the '400,000 hours playing time' to max out your levels on

400,000 hours is 45 years solid, not just the stated 1.5, although 400,000 minutes would be 1.5 years at 12 hours per day - something which sounds slightly more possible for somebody to play... and 6500 hours (400k mins) to 2376 sounds possible - putting in some rough numbers for hourly xp, I got ~6000 hours, making it appear that 'minutes' was meant rather than 'hours'. If it's all skills to 200m xp, the average speed would have to be 12k/hr - clearly lower than reality.
Pliigi
Very interesting article, I was intrigued by how security conscious they are. I always assumed they had good security, but he seems very serious about it. Good over all.
Fallen Hero
interesting
Zheph
"With game development taking two years and costing up to £10m, the last thing you need is for information to leak out before the title hits the shelves."

Mechscape has been being made for approximately 2 years, right?

A very interesting article.
Ren
QUOTE (Zheph @ Feb 24 2009, 08:35 PM) *
Mechscape has been being made for approximately 2 years, right?

Longer than that. My research indicates they were working on it in 2005 but didn't get into proper development until mid-2006.
Dizzy
Aha! So he's 32! Mwahaha! Gerhard, I know your secrets now! Mwahaha! devil.gif

Interesting read - same effect as every other new find: more excitement for MechScape. biggrin.gif
EchoNova
A very good find. I knew Jagex was secretive, but not this secretive.
They really want their privacy!
Splosh
QUOTE (Brenden @ Feb 24 2009, 05:24 PM) *
QUOTE (Ren @ Feb 24 2009, 11:11 AM) *
QUOTE (Noodle @ Feb 24 2009, 05:10 PM) *
Gerhard > Andrew

Iddison was the former CEO, not Andrew.


I think they were referring to how the article mentioned Andrew being closed off more so, and now we have Gerhard who is way more open :p

Was the other way round in the article.

QUOTE (Man @ Feb 24 2009, 04:22 PM) *
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With game development taking two years and costing up to £10m, the last thing you need is for information to leak out before the title hits the shelves.

Hmm, I wonder if that is hinting at something?

Figure of speech plis blush.gif
nicatronTg
Funny, I wonder what it would be like to walk into JaGeX...my vision is a room like in Men in Black, with white everything o.O

And on a more related note, I didn't know that JaGeX had literal security...they should send us a picture of inside JaGeX.
Ren
QUOTE (nicatronTg @ Feb 25 2009, 04:58 AM) *
And on a more related note, I didn't know that JaGeX had literal security...they should send us a picture of inside JaGeX.

They may have security but they aren't totally secretive - see http://www.jagex.com/corporate/Jobs/lifeAtJagex.ws
zlcoolboy
"Although you find once you evolve, so do they. We've even had letters from syndicates complaining we're putting them out of business."'
What exactly does this mean, Does it mean macro company's were sending letters to them?
Daniel
QUOTE (nicatronTg @ Feb 25 2009, 04:58 AM) *
And on a more related note, I didn't know that JaGeX had literal security...they should send us a picture of inside JaGeX.

QUOTE (Ren @ Feb 25 2009, 12:14 AM) *
They may have security but they aren't totally secretive - see http://www.jagex.com/corporate/Jobs/lifeAtJagex.ws

When they talk about secrecy, they don't mean 'bodyguards around the premises'-type of secrecy. It's more down to the theoretical measures they will have in place to ensure there are no unwanted leaks about what they have under the hood. It can be a problem in a large company -- sometimes it's hard to keep track of who's telling who what. Pictures of their workplace isn't going to have any impact on their security.

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"Although you find once you evolve, so do they. We've even had letters from syndicates complaining we're putting them out of business."'
What exactly does this mean, Does it mean macro company's were sending letters to them?

Yes. RWT is huge business, especially in the East. It does seem comparable to a burglar sending a letter complaining to someone for increasing their house security. But eradicating RWT from RuneScape no doubt caused businesses which rely on this market to fail and put many people out of a job. Sadly, some people earn their living through it.
Stan
'400,000 hours' .. Hmmm, isn't that abit too long?!

:o

~ Stan
japol2
wow 16 hours a day to play runescape. They should limit hours to play runescape.
Stan
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wow 16 hours a day to play runescape. They should limit hours to play runescape.


NO THEY DONT!

'Cause I can play addict too :P ^_^

~ Stan
Six
Games.....hmmm.....Mechscape/Thirdscape. Interesting.

I wonder what Thirdscape will look like. Anyone else?
LordGiogek
this is good information, keep on the good work ren. :D
Shadow of Sofia
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But that's not to say he isn't interested in bringing new products to market. "We have new MMORPG games on the way aimed at an older audience. The games are what makes Jagex special. It's an awesome company with great staff and we just had the most successful two quarters in our history."


When he says games, does he mean Mechscape and Thirdscape, or with there be even more hes hinting, and we're all to blind to see it? blink.gif
Lider V
What would one do without Ren... tongue.gif

Good read. thumbsup.gif
datguy08
QUOTE (Lider V @ Mar 2 2009, 12:07 AM) *
What would one do without Ren... tongue.gif



totally agree with you, ren is the glue, nails, screws god hes even wat oxygen to us is but in the mechscape world lol thanks for all the hard work ren and of course the mechscape world staff :) blush.gif
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