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Elite Tasks
by Mod Maz 19-Nov-2009


Back in 2006, Mod Mark and I sat down and started to develop what we then called ‘area tasks’. This idea was concepted and developed into the very first Achievement Diary: Karamja. This was a completely new idea within the game - not a quest, yet not a minigame or skill. It was quite an adventure finding and pushing the boundaries of what was possible at the time, and yet staying within our core ideas for what was to become Achievement Diaries: "To highlight existing content that perhaps players hadn’t used in a long time or simply didn’t know about, and to show players around an area by using existing content in the area."

Elite

So, seven diaries later and what has changed? Well, we give far greater rewards for the newer diaries than we gave to Karamja; we’ve added a special beginner diary to Lumbridge to introduce new players to the concept; and, of course, we recently released the Ardougne diary with a hidden elite section.

We were a little wary about how this elite section would go down considering how few players could actually complete it. Overall, the feedback appears to have been positive, with many players using it as a goal, rather than seeing it as a disappointment that they’ll never reach.

So, I’m now starting to design the elite sections for all of the diaries (hard for Lumbridge). What does this involve? It’s generally split into two parts: coming up with tasks and coming up with rewards.

By far the easier part is coming up with the tasks, which is in no small part due to you, the players. I cannot begin to count the number of good tasks that have been suggested for previous diaries on the forums. Being a player of RuneScape as well as a developer, I’ll also use my own game knowledge of the area to come up with some tasks, as well as walking around the area to get a feel for it.

In the case of elite tasks, I will also be talking to the curators of the other diaries that I didn’t develop or do not curate - that’s Mod Roderick (Lumbridge and Varrock), Mod Trick (Falador) and Mod Hew (Fremennik) - to see what they’d want. Oh, and listening to the squirrels’ instructions for world domination... Wait, what?



Ardougne cloak 3


Task master

What do we look for in elite tasks? Well, pretty much the same as any normal task, but they should be higher in level than the hard tasks for the area.

This means:

  • Bearing in mind the core aims of the project.
  • Trying to stick to the skill ‘theme’ of the area, if at all possible. This is the loosest requirement; after all, a diary that only featured Thieving tasks would be fairly boring and predictable!
  • Avoiding anything that relies on a random possibility, as this has caused problems in the past (remember the gout tuber in Karamja’s Achievement Diary?). This means avoiding things like monster drop tables, clue scrolls and other such random features.
  • Avoiding bottlenecks - e.g. things players can only do one at a time, such as successfully Thieving from one particular stall or killing the KBD, which prevents other players from doing the task for a short time.
  • Never using any part of a quest as a task. This last one is quite tricky, as things like getting some boots of lightness would make for a nice little task, but as it is part of a quest, we don’t add it as a task because the mechanic has already been used.

Rewards

Having found some good tasks it’s then on to the hard part: the rewards! At least here we have a small start, as all of the diaries have XP lamps as part of the reward, but what else to give that is both balanced (so as to not be overpowered) and in keeping with the previous rewards? At the moment, that, along with the tasks, is a question I am pondering and coming up with ideas for.

Overall, I’m very proud that I am able to reward players through these diaries for their everyday playing of the game. Not just the XP and the item rewards, but the reward of discovering (or re-discovering) parts of the game that you find fun and useful.

If you feel you’d like to contribute ideas for elite tasks, elite rewards or tasks/rewards for any of the areas that don’t yet have an Achievement Diary, please post them on this forum thread. If you have questions relating specifically to this blog, please visit this forum thread.
Hayaemsay
While I am glad to see that they are extending the Achievement Diaries I can't imagine I'll actually to be able to complete any with my current stats based on the previous requirements. Hopefully the rewards will be more substantial than a nearly redundant teleport.
displayname
good diary biggrin.gif


the high level players wanted more stuff to do. and thats what they got. jagex listen to us players
scifire
I'm glad they're doing this, but hopefully the rewards will be worth the tasks. The Ardy ones are tough, but I'm not sure the reward is enough. They're on the right track.
Kaur
Can't wait for the free xp lamps!
Aslancsc
sounds cool, but seing as im not a maxed player I doubt I will ever be able to finish any of the elite tasks.
killrrhubarb
Sounds good. I only have one question: will the Lumbridge elite tasks be able to be completed by free players? by the way they have worded it, it sounds like it might but I have my doubts.
EliteZeon
Well, they said "Hard" for free players.

So, I am looking forward to something that calls for level 60+ requirements, at least 40+ around the Free World Main Zone.
Egg
Yeah 60+ would be good imo, even though I've never got around to starting them.
Orbie
After the generally positive reaction to the first batch of Elite tasks, I was hoping they would continue them :). Mod Maz should do a good job, she has a lot of experience with the Diaries (and obviously her squirrel overlords are extremely capable). Would hope the rewards would be more than free teleports to places the lower rewards already teleport to buuuut I will never in a million years finish an Elite task so I suppose my opinion isn't very relevant.
CharmedPop
Can't wait to have something to work for. I got unlucky and already had everything for the elite part of the diary last time. Maybe the next ones will require something like 91+ runecrafting, 90 prayer, and 90 herblore or something awesome like that. I better start raising farming soon, that's the only one I couldn't get really quick if needed. That and slayer, but I wouldn't mind the challenge. I've always wanted a reason to go past 85.

I love motivation! I'm really excited. smile.gif
Crash Jordan
60 is a bit low for a hard task, since it's only 263k xp.
Lord John
I always found the tasks mundane and REALLY boring. The only reason some are worth wasting a day doing is because some have good rewards.
Crash Jordan
QUOTE (Lord John @ Nov 20 2009, 07:57 PM) *
I always found the tasks mundane and REALLY boring. The only reason some are worth wasting a day doing is because some have good rewards.


I like them. They are basically the same as the achievements xbox 360 has, or trophies on ps3.

CharmedPop
QUOTE (Crash Jordan @ Nov 21 2009, 12:46 AM) *
QUOTE (Lord John @ Nov 20 2009, 07:57 PM) *
I always found the tasks mundane and REALLY boring. The only reason some are worth wasting a day doing is because some have good rewards.


I like them. They are basically the same as the achievements xbox 360 has, or trophies on ps3.


They're like quests without the storyline. They're similar to what other traditional MMORPGs call quests. I think they'd be more fun if people did them the way they intended, by just do them as you go about your business. Of course that doesn't work for their long time players.
XxanilinaxX
I like :)





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