With all the No so great updates lately and the often no update week I was wondering what It would be like If jagex did 3-month update Cycles, Where we would get many high quality updates at once. Tell me what you think, Its likely that jagex would never do this because of the community already being use to 1 week updates. But who knows....
By 3 month update cycle I mean all the updates they would in the pipes would be released every 3 months.
Pros and Cons (Feel free to add to this)
Pros:
-A lot of content at once
-high quality
Cons:
-Waiting
-People too lazy to find out what has been updated
-If something that your really looking forward to gets pushed back, You have to wait another 3 months
Tell me what you think
Full Version: Runescape Update Cycles
They still update every week? I thought it was like every other week, and once every 1-3 months a big update.
They try to update every week, but there is ALOT of updateless weeks
I voted for the 3 month thing because i misread it. But i should have voted for the other option. This is my idea:
every week we get a small update for 2-4 weeks.
then that 3rd 4th or 5th week we get one big update and a few minor or small ones.
It would still keep those we need weekly update ranters at bay and still give us a good update once in a while.
every week we get a small update for 2-4 weeks.
then that 3rd 4th or 5th week we get one big update and a few minor or small ones.
It would still keep those we need weekly update ranters at bay and still give us a good update once in a while.
QUOTE (Spam @ Nov 18 2009, 02:38 PM) 
I voted for the 3 month thing because i misread it. But i should have voted for the other option. This is my idea:
every week we get a small update for 2-4 weeks.
then that 3rd 4th or 5th week we get one big update and a few minor or small ones.
It would still keep those we need weekly update ranters at bay and still give us a good update once in a while.
every week we get a small update for 2-4 weeks.
then that 3rd 4th or 5th week we get one big update and a few minor or small ones.
It would still keep those we need weekly update ranters at bay and still give us a good update once in a while.
Actually in october 2008 they promised that every 5 week month they would have a godwars dungeon sized update. Boy did they lie
QUOTE (Spam @ Nov 18 2009, 04:38 PM)
I voted for the 3 month thing because i misread it. But i should have voted for the other option. This is my idea:
every week we get a small update for 2-4 weeks.
then that 3rd 4th or 5th week we get one big update and a few minor or small ones.
It would still keep those we need weekly update ranters at bay and still give us a good update once in a while.
every week we get a small update for 2-4 weeks.
then that 3rd 4th or 5th week we get one big update and a few minor or small ones.
It would still keep those we need weekly update ranters at bay and still give us a good update once in a while.
Yeah, this is sort of the same idea I had (4th or 5th week). Except I would not expect to get most of the updates being f2p.
I'd be ok with every 3 months, as long as it was a decent sized update.
They basically do update each three months. A lot of weeks are "no update weeks" and most updates are too small or insignificant for anyone to care about. They only release something people actually like once each three months. I think they should really read suggestion forums on fan sites because all those ideas are far better than the ones Jagex are currently using.
Every 5th week is a no update week, John.
Jagex need to stop updating things that people don't want. We don't want a champions scroll update, we want a new dungeon or a skill update. We don't want one of the few moneymaking skills nerfed, we want it made more fun and interesting.
Jagex updating a game that has 4 races is gonna be lolz, they won't be able to handle it.
Jagex need to stop updating things that people don't want. We don't want a champions scroll update, we want a new dungeon or a skill update. We don't want one of the few moneymaking skills nerfed, we want it made more fun and interesting.
Jagex updating a game that has 4 races is gonna be lolz, they won't be able to handle it.
I'd prefer whatever cycle it takes them to make each update decent.
QUOTE (Hayaemsay @ Nov 19 2009, 12:14 PM)
I'd prefer whatever cycle it takes them to make each update decent.
Yearly?
QUOTE (Crash Jordan @ Nov 18 2009, 07:17 PM)
QUOTE (Hayaemsay @ Nov 19 2009, 12:14 PM)
I'd prefer whatever cycle it takes them to make each update decent.
Yearly?
with minor updates that don't have to large of an affect on the game, keep the quests and fixes and achievement diaries rolling please.
I second that, finish the damn diaries.
And we're still waiting on the Fairy update which is useless because when I was a member I never went to Zanaris at all. It's like updating the basement of Varrock bank. No one goes there or cares what it looks like.
QUOTE (Lord John @ Nov 18 2009, 07:16 PM)
And we're still waiting on the Fairy update which is useless because when I was a member I never went to Zanaris at all. It's like updating the basement of Varrock bank. No one goes there or cares what it looks like.
Its still better than it being blue.......
Although I can't wait to do the quest
I like the way it is now, and they do, do big updates every 2-3 months.
QUOTE (Lord John @ Nov 19 2009, 03:16 PM)
And we're still waiting on the Fairy update which is useless because when I was a member I never went to Zanaris at all. It's like updating the basement of Varrock bank. No one goes there or cares what it looks like.
Zanaris is probably my third most visited location.
I remember back in the day when Slayer was criticized as being a pointless skill and a waste of time. Why get told to kill things when you can kill things anyway? Now it's one of the most popular skills to train. Every update on RuneScape is hated by its infamous vocal minority that are apparently masochists who play the game they seemingly despise. A lot of updates are indeed sort of useless in the long run, but if you asked the community of RS, every update would be below shit on the value scale.
QUOTE (Lord John @ Nov 18 2009, 08:16 PM)
And we're still waiting on the Fairy update which is useless because when I was a member I never went to Zanaris at all. It's like updating the basement of Varrock bank. No one goes there or cares what it looks like.
False. Zanaris is the hub of the fairy rings, which is one of the most handy free teleports in RuneScape - more so with how easy it is now to dial a location. It's also the (former) site of a popular, profitable magic training method and the cosmic altar as well as zygomites...
I'd like to point out that this is the year of fixes for Runescape. They said this at the beginning of the year:
Note the "tweak and polish what we've already got" and "approximately four updates per month, which will alternate between upgrades and new content" statements. This was year of the fixing and polishing, not year of the OMFG new dungeon. I fully expected this, as that's what they said they were doing. The lack of updates is simply because of all the fixing going on behind the scenes. Look at this week's patch notes:
Now tell me they aren't doing anything.
QUOTE
Well, this is the challenge that we’ve set ourselves: 2009 has become our official Upgrade Year! So, what does that mean? It means our New Year's resolution is to tweak and polish what we've already got in the game alongside creating new content. For example:
* Doing the 'little' jobs that make a big difference (e.g. a 'You are here' arrow on the world map) and basically fixing all the annoying little quirks the game has. Things that may be the least glamorous to work on and talk about, but which really add up.
* Updating some of the earliest content/quests to bring it up to date, and take advantage of all the features we have added to the game engine since it was originally created. Also, reworking old clues that no longer work now the game is bigger (e.g. 'Look west of the mountains' was fine when there was only one mountain, but not now).
* Making the interfaces as intuitive, flexible and user-friendly as possible.
* Then, after all that, we’ll start looking into abandoned and barely used areas/features of the game, and breathing new life into them.
Of course, we don't want to JUST do upgrades, so we're planning to do a mix of upgrades and new content. To achieve this we are planning on going back to releasing approximately four updates per month, which will alternate between upgrades and new content.
* Doing the 'little' jobs that make a big difference (e.g. a 'You are here' arrow on the world map) and basically fixing all the annoying little quirks the game has. Things that may be the least glamorous to work on and talk about, but which really add up.
* Updating some of the earliest content/quests to bring it up to date, and take advantage of all the features we have added to the game engine since it was originally created. Also, reworking old clues that no longer work now the game is bigger (e.g. 'Look west of the mountains' was fine when there was only one mountain, but not now).
* Making the interfaces as intuitive, flexible and user-friendly as possible.
* Then, after all that, we’ll start looking into abandoned and barely used areas/features of the game, and breathing new life into them.
Of course, we don't want to JUST do upgrades, so we're planning to do a mix of upgrades and new content. To achieve this we are planning on going back to releasing approximately four updates per month, which will alternate between upgrades and new content.
Note the "tweak and polish what we've already got" and "approximately four updates per month, which will alternate between upgrades and new content" statements. This was year of the fixing and polishing, not year of the OMFG new dungeon. I fully expected this, as that's what they said they were doing. The lack of updates is simply because of all the fixing going on behind the scenes. Look at this week's patch notes:
QUOTE
Graphical
* Fixed several ghost chatheads that were broken.
* Added backing to the walls in the Temple of Light.
* Fixed the fountain animations outside the Wizards’ Tower.
* Fixed Ava's arm from bending in odd directions.
* Adjusted the wall near the Falador grapple shortcut.
* Mining rocks in the desert have been graphically improved.
* Resolved a problem when wearing infinity boots and flared trousers.
* Corrected the colour of the bronze pickaxe near Piscatoris.
* Resized a key that was a bit small and hard to see on the floor.
* Adjusted the models for the lighthouse so it renders better in Standard Detail.
* Better aligned the walls in Falador near the armour shop.
* Corrected the height for the guard tower outside Varrock.
* Adjusted the walls in the classroom near Barbarian Village in Standard Detail.
* Corrected the image of halberds in the Strength skill guide.
* Adjusted the placement of the TzHaar and Werewolf Champions’ Challenge banners.
* Improved the timings for animations in a cutscene in the Contact quest.
* Removed a chathead issue from Thorgel the dwarf.
* Resolved a problem when wearing Barrows armour and an abyssal whip.
* Stopped some blood from hovering off the ground.
* Corrected some labelling issues when wearing a rune plateskirt and a rune crossbow.
* Improved the held position for an NPC with a staff.
* Stopped a few torches rendering through the floor above.
* Adjusted the colour of an Agility shortcut gap to properly fade to black rather than grey.
* Corrected several animations for rats and mice, especially in Rat Catchers.
* Fixed some labelling issues with the flame gloves.
* Mystic robe bottoms now match when worn and when in your inventory.
* Marius's beard now matches his chathead.
* Fixed a problem where some ground would be occluded and disappear.
* When picking your produce from farming patches, you should no longer have any offhand items shown in the animations.
* Fixed a problem when wearing the ringmaster top and holding Eek.
* Corrected several hat problems with the latest selection of hairstyle additions.
* Changed some mapping to prevent seeing into nearby squares.
* Frodi's shadow is now at the right height (i.e. floor height)
* Fixed the lava bubbles near Ourania Altar.
* Resolved a problem with the portrait in a Keldagrim pub.
* Flattened the calquat patch on Karamja.
* Mourning's Ends Part II will now correctly show as started in your Quest Journal.
* Corrected a render issue for a haircut on the player creation interface.
* Adjusted the area around the ladder down to the Champions’ Challenge arena.
* Players’ torsos are now correctly aligned when wearing Saradomin platebodies and larupia legs.
* Various animation issues in Spirits of the Elid have been resolved and various sounds added.
* Fixed interactions between top hats and male haircuts.
* Removed some bubbles from the bottom of Baxtorian Falls that didn't look great.
* Solved a problem when holding the bowl from Tears of Guthix and wearing larupia legs.
* Realigned the roof on the pub in Yanille.
* Graphically updated the mining rocks north of Yanille.
* A tree broke its trunk. We've splinted the gap and it should be healed in no time.
* Stopped a piece of wood floating in Burgh de Rott.
* The ship at Pirates’ Cove is now consistent with the ship at Lunar Isle.
* Magic trees grown by players now have sparkling effects on both sides.
* Remodelled a crossbow shortcut on Karamja.
* Fixed the Grand Tree and remove roof issues.
Audio
* Added more variance to the sound effects when casting spells.
* A sound has been added to the Telegrab spell.
* Slightly modified the song "Baroque".
Quests
* Removed a combat requirement from the Merlin's Crystal quest as it wasn't needed.
* Fixed a problem where Within the Light wasn't being filtered correctly even if you had the requirements to start it.
Minigames
* Added a bridge on the Treasure Trail map interface to reflect recent changes.
* Mobilising Armies no longer forces custom cursors in the minigame.
* Rewrote a fair amount of the logic behind the Brimhaven Agility Arena.
Miscellaneous
* Adjusted the logic when asking Oronwen to repair your trousers.
* Fixed a website link from the welcome screen.
* Corrected a few in-game links to the Knowledge Base.
* Reduced the clickable area for picking up the bank leaflet.
* Expanded the Barrows digging area to the north.
* Properly fixed the flowers required to create praying mantis Summoning pouches.
* Removed duplicate right-click options in the Clan Chat window.
* Fixed a few typos and grammar issues.
* Adjusted the checks when resting and casting spells.
* Ivy has been added to the suggested Woodcutting objectives.
* After the Ardougne Achievement Diary, your POH scrying pool will show the correct location.
* Adjusted the logic behind the Magic interface scroll bar.
* Ensured all lava in the Clan Wars area is blocked off.
* You can no longer stand on the same square as Frodi.
* Various extra checks have been added to the skillcapes and resting.
* Fixed a mechanical problem with the Lumbridge water wheel.
* You now need to be within a certain distance to be able to read signposts.
* Fixed a problem with sea snakes and poison attacks.
* Fixed several ghost chatheads that were broken.
* Added backing to the walls in the Temple of Light.
* Fixed the fountain animations outside the Wizards’ Tower.
* Fixed Ava's arm from bending in odd directions.
* Adjusted the wall near the Falador grapple shortcut.
* Mining rocks in the desert have been graphically improved.
* Resolved a problem when wearing infinity boots and flared trousers.
* Corrected the colour of the bronze pickaxe near Piscatoris.
* Resized a key that was a bit small and hard to see on the floor.
* Adjusted the models for the lighthouse so it renders better in Standard Detail.
* Better aligned the walls in Falador near the armour shop.
* Corrected the height for the guard tower outside Varrock.
* Adjusted the walls in the classroom near Barbarian Village in Standard Detail.
* Corrected the image of halberds in the Strength skill guide.
* Adjusted the placement of the TzHaar and Werewolf Champions’ Challenge banners.
* Improved the timings for animations in a cutscene in the Contact quest.
* Removed a chathead issue from Thorgel the dwarf.
* Resolved a problem when wearing Barrows armour and an abyssal whip.
* Stopped some blood from hovering off the ground.
* Corrected some labelling issues when wearing a rune plateskirt and a rune crossbow.
* Improved the held position for an NPC with a staff.
* Stopped a few torches rendering through the floor above.
* Adjusted the colour of an Agility shortcut gap to properly fade to black rather than grey.
* Corrected several animations for rats and mice, especially in Rat Catchers.
* Fixed some labelling issues with the flame gloves.
* Mystic robe bottoms now match when worn and when in your inventory.
* Marius's beard now matches his chathead.
* Fixed a problem where some ground would be occluded and disappear.
* When picking your produce from farming patches, you should no longer have any offhand items shown in the animations.
* Fixed a problem when wearing the ringmaster top and holding Eek.
* Corrected several hat problems with the latest selection of hairstyle additions.
* Changed some mapping to prevent seeing into nearby squares.
* Frodi's shadow is now at the right height (i.e. floor height)
* Fixed the lava bubbles near Ourania Altar.
* Resolved a problem with the portrait in a Keldagrim pub.
* Flattened the calquat patch on Karamja.
* Mourning's Ends Part II will now correctly show as started in your Quest Journal.
* Corrected a render issue for a haircut on the player creation interface.
* Adjusted the area around the ladder down to the Champions’ Challenge arena.
* Players’ torsos are now correctly aligned when wearing Saradomin platebodies and larupia legs.
* Various animation issues in Spirits of the Elid have been resolved and various sounds added.
* Fixed interactions between top hats and male haircuts.
* Removed some bubbles from the bottom of Baxtorian Falls that didn't look great.
* Solved a problem when holding the bowl from Tears of Guthix and wearing larupia legs.
* Realigned the roof on the pub in Yanille.
* Graphically updated the mining rocks north of Yanille.
* A tree broke its trunk. We've splinted the gap and it should be healed in no time.
* Stopped a piece of wood floating in Burgh de Rott.
* The ship at Pirates’ Cove is now consistent with the ship at Lunar Isle.
* Magic trees grown by players now have sparkling effects on both sides.
* Remodelled a crossbow shortcut on Karamja.
* Fixed the Grand Tree and remove roof issues.
Audio
* Added more variance to the sound effects when casting spells.
* A sound has been added to the Telegrab spell.
* Slightly modified the song "Baroque".
Quests
* Removed a combat requirement from the Merlin's Crystal quest as it wasn't needed.
* Fixed a problem where Within the Light wasn't being filtered correctly even if you had the requirements to start it.
Minigames
* Added a bridge on the Treasure Trail map interface to reflect recent changes.
* Mobilising Armies no longer forces custom cursors in the minigame.
* Rewrote a fair amount of the logic behind the Brimhaven Agility Arena.
Miscellaneous
* Adjusted the logic when asking Oronwen to repair your trousers.
* Fixed a website link from the welcome screen.
* Corrected a few in-game links to the Knowledge Base.
* Reduced the clickable area for picking up the bank leaflet.
* Expanded the Barrows digging area to the north.
* Properly fixed the flowers required to create praying mantis Summoning pouches.
* Removed duplicate right-click options in the Clan Chat window.
* Fixed a few typos and grammar issues.
* Adjusted the checks when resting and casting spells.
* Ivy has been added to the suggested Woodcutting objectives.
* After the Ardougne Achievement Diary, your POH scrying pool will show the correct location.
* Adjusted the logic behind the Magic interface scroll bar.
* Ensured all lava in the Clan Wars area is blocked off.
* You can no longer stand on the same square as Frodi.
* Various extra checks have been added to the skillcapes and resting.
* Fixed a mechanical problem with the Lumbridge water wheel.
* You now need to be within a certain distance to be able to read signposts.
* Fixed a problem with sea snakes and poison attacks.
Now tell me they aren't doing anything.
This year is not just dedicated to tweaking, in a Q&A they mentioned that only a small portion of the content team were actually devoted tweaking. This should not prevent new content of a larger scale, the reason we have not seen such is because a lot of focus was put into extending existing skills (Herblore, Mining, Fish, Agility, Prayer, Woodcutting).
Most of what is mentioned in the patch notes probably don't require a huge time investment
Most of what is mentioned in the patch notes probably don't require a huge time investment
Exactly. A year of updates is not just confined to tweaking stuff that is wrong, but adding major stuff that improves the fun-level of the game as well. So far this year Jagex has not added many major fun stuff to do, just tweaked the old stuff. This is probably why so many new content has been pushed back. Hopefully they will add a bit more content at the end of this year or next year, at least. After all, next year is meant to be the "year of awesomeness".
QUOTE (Hayaemsay @ Nov 19 2009, 06:11 AM)
This year is not just dedicated to tweaking, in a Q&A they mentioned that only a small portion of the content team were actually devoted tweaking. This should not prevent new content of a larger scale, the reason we have not seen such is because a lot of focus was put into extending existing skills (Herblore, Mining, Fish, Agility, Prayer, Woodcutting).
Most of what is mentioned in the patch notes probably don't require a huge time investment
Most of what is mentioned in the patch notes probably don't require a huge time investment
Hay thats the problem.
Little team fixers devoted to tweaking.
The fixers aren't having enough time to fix an update that is planned and current ones, resulting into no update weeks and if an update is released it will have alot of bugzzzz.
and last week's had a [b]WAY[/b[ bigger list.
For fixing something you have to always find a way to fix it which takes time.
I think Jagex should make a good update every two weeks or so, and maybe a huge update around Christmas and call it their present to the players!
QUOTE (TechnoBulldog @ Nov 21 2009, 10:31 AM)
I think Jagex should make a good update every two weeks or so, and maybe a huge update around Christmas and call it their present to the players!
All they do around christmas is a simple event that has a simple reward
They should update whenever they finish something.
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