MechScape World > Two New Jagex Trademarks

Pliigi

Nov 15 2009, 05:40 AM

Jagex have filed two new trademark applications; "Hack Idol" and "Just About The Gaming Experience."

Hack Idol:

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List of goods or services

Class 41: Organising and arranging of competitions for developers of computer games programs; organising and arranging of competitions for developers of video games programs; organising and arranging of competitions for developers of interactive games software; organising and arranging of competitions for developers of entertainment software

Just About the Gaming Experience

Apparently they've decided to stick with the new name, which is a replacement for "Java Gaming Experts."

TehBigGun

Nov 15 2009, 05:43 AM

Maybe they've decided to move away from Java and to the consoles.

Aslancsc

Nov 15 2009, 05:45 AM

hack idol?

im sorry, but even as a funorb game that just sounds horrible. I wouldn't play it. lol

Unique

Nov 15 2009, 05:45 AM

Ok, great, but how is this off topic?

Pliigi

Nov 15 2009, 05:48 AM

QUOTE (Aslancsc @ Nov 14 2009, 09:45 PM)

hack idol?

im sorry, but even as a funorb game that just sounds horrible. I wouldn't play it. lol

Well according to the trademark classification (1) (2) it won't be a FunOrb game. The usual classifications Jagex uses for FunOrb games are 09, 16, 25, 28 and 41, however, Hack Idol's only classification is:

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Class 41: Organising and arranging of competitions for developers of computer games programs; organising and arranging of competitions for developers of video games programs; organising and arranging of competitions for developers of interactive games software; organising and arranging of competitions for developers of entertainment software

QUOTE (Unique @ Nov 14 2009, 09:45 PM)

Ok, great, but how is this off topic?

PoultryChamp said this would be the best forum for it.

Aslancsc

Nov 15 2009, 06:11 AM

developer competitions eh? I have no clue how they would spin that story on the front page of rs. no one would do it, few people are games developers.

Hayaemsay

Nov 15 2009, 07:53 AM

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PoultryChamp said this would be the best forum for it.

Surely Other Games would be the more suitable sub seeing as discussion for all other game developers fits in there?

Crash Jordan

Nov 15 2009, 07:55 AM

Hack Idol sounds strange.

Lord John

Nov 15 2009, 08:56 AM

Hack Idol sounds like the equivalent of Australian/American Idol for nerds :P

Alex

Nov 15 2009, 09:02 AM

I reckon it will be a competition about who can make the best level for a game.

killrrhubarb

Nov 15 2009, 09:33 AM

Hack Idol sounds like a competition for people who can best hack Runescape. The prize for all people who enter is an instant ban.

LordTobytwo

Nov 15 2009, 12:56 PM

JAGEX = Join Andrew Gowers EXperiment...

Lord John

Nov 15 2009, 12:59 PM

Or "Just Annoying Guys Earning X dollars"

Human

Nov 15 2009, 01:12 PM

QUOTE (Lord John @ Nov 15 2009, 01:59 PM)

Or "Just Annoying Guys Earning X dollars"

Oh i just got JAGEXD

LordTobytwo

Nov 15 2009, 02:06 PM

POUNDS ARE SUPERIOR!

displayname

Nov 15 2009, 02:38 PM

i understand the just about the gaming experience. but wtf is hack idol? a new name for stellar dawn where we are going to hack as many jagex accounts as possible?

Ren

Nov 15 2009, 02:47 PM

Seems like Hack Idol is a competition, but still not sure on what they are wanting. By "hack" they could mean modify or they could mean circumvent security. Could it be anything to do with their long-term plans of allowing for third-party developers distribute their games through Jagex platforms?

Sidenote: SD General is usually the forum for anything relating to Jagex but not relating specifically to RuneScape and/or FunOrb.

Alex

Nov 15 2009, 04:40 PM

Could hack idol be something like notpron?

Ren

Nov 15 2009, 04:45 PM

QUOTE (Alex @ Nov 15 2009, 04:40 PM)

Could hack idol be something like notpron?

Yes, it could be something like that. But why would they do it exactly? As a way of getting new security-savvy staff? To better their own security (either getting people to report glitches in the game or genuine security problems)? For fun?

Edit: To get amateur developers to make games for them to host?

Alex

Nov 15 2009, 04:55 PM

QUOTE (Ren @ Nov 15 2009, 04:45 PM)

QUOTE (Alex @ Nov 15 2009, 04:40 PM)

Could hack idol be something like notpron?

Yes, it could be something like that. But why would they do it exactly? As a way of getting new security-savvy staff? To better their own security? For fun?

I was thinking more along the lines of the RP they made on the funorb forum recently. Nothing to do with staff, an actual game for the users, but just not a Java or Flash or whatever app.

Ren

Nov 15 2009, 05:53 PM

QUOTE (Alex @ Nov 15 2009, 04:55 PM)

I was thinking more along the lines of the RP they made on the funorb forum recently. Nothing to do with staff, an actual game for the users, but just not a Java or Flash or whatever app.

If it was a game instead of a competition then why was it registered solely under Class 41?

Alex

Nov 15 2009, 06:07 PM

QUOTE (Ren @ Nov 15 2009, 05:53 PM)

QUOTE (Alex @ Nov 15 2009, 04:55 PM)

I was thinking more along the lines of the RP they made on the funorb forum recently. Nothing to do with staff, an actual game for the users, but just not a Java or Flash or whatever app.

If it was a game instead of a competition then why was it registered solely under Class 41?

Would a time-limited game be a competition?

That's what I'm thinking. I'm just not typing like I actually have a brain.

Egg

Nov 15 2009, 06:20 PM

I was thinking that "Hack Idol" will invole people trying to hack into their security systems, and whoever does it hte fastest/most effeciently gets to work there to improve them. Or maybe just a prize, and Jagex fixes there own systems.

I've heard of a few computer companies that have done this.

Human

Nov 15 2009, 06:28 PM

QUOTE (Egg @ Nov 15 2009, 07:20 PM)

I was thinking that "Hack Idol" will invole people trying to hack into their security systems, and whoever does it hte fastest/most effeciently gets to work there to improve them. Or maybe just a prize, and Jagex fixes there own systems.

I've heard of a few computer companies that have done this.

Name me some of these companies.

Egg

Nov 15 2009, 06:33 PM

QUOTE (Human @ Nov 15 2009, 01:28 PM)

QUOTE (Egg @ Nov 15 2009, 07:20 PM)

I was thinking that "Hack Idol" will invole people trying to hack into their security systems, and whoever does it hte fastest/most effeciently gets to work there to improve them. Or maybe just a prize, and Jagex fixes there own systems.

I've heard of a few computer companies that have done this.

Name me some of these companies.

Grr... Now I have to go and find at least one....

Hmmm... I swear I read about at least one hacker who was hired by some big-name company...

Anyways, a quote from Wikipedia:

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White hat hackers, also known as ethical hackers, or white knights, are computer security experts, who specialize in penetration testing, and other testing methodologies, to ensure that a company's information systems are secure. Such people are employed by companies where these professionals are sometimes called "sneakers." Groups of these people are often called tiger teams or red teams. These security experts may utilize a variety of methods to carry out their tests, including social engineering tactics, use of hacking tools, and attempts to evade security to gain entry into secured areas.

Basically, these are hackers who break into a system to stop being from breaking into the same system.

http://www.v3.co.uk/vnunet/news/2243724/wh...se-turns-hacker <-- Still on white hats (Trying to find one where a black hat has become a white hat.)

Crash Jordan

Nov 15 2009, 09:30 PM

I seriously doubt Jagex are going to promote hacking..

@Egg; Maybe you're thinking of the guy who hacked the NSA, and they hired him to stop people like him. ;)

Faybro

Nov 15 2009, 09:31 PM

*sigh*

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Hack+Idol

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/10/12/hack_idol/

I'm confused, though, as to why Jagex has it.

Aslancsc

Nov 15 2009, 09:40 PM

anti-hackers. awesome

nicatronTg

Nov 15 2009, 10:04 PM

I'll go back to using my neighbor's encrypted wifi.

Ren

Nov 15 2009, 10:26 PM

Faybro: From what I can tell El Reg was just calling the security thing "Hack Idol" but that wouldn't be the name of the event (as that title isn't featured in the source which they cite as the basis of the story).

TechnoBulldog

Nov 15 2009, 11:03 PM

Hmm. I suppose the sentence will be their new motto, and it makes sense that they would TM that. I'm very curious about the hack idol, though. I don't know what to think about it. Sounds interesting, though.

Egg

Nov 16 2009, 12:09 AM

QUOTE (Crash Jordan @ Nov 15 2009, 04:30 PM)

I seriously doubt Jagex are going to promote hacking..

@Egg; Maybe you're thinking of the guy who hacked the NSA, and they hired him to stop people like him. ;)

Yeah that's probably it. Couldn't find an article on it though.

Back on topic. I could be wrong, but it will be interesting to find out what it actually is for.

TechnoBulldog

Nov 16 2009, 12:12 AM

Maybe we should PM Spaceone and ask him :D

Then again, that would be rude...

Lord John

Nov 16 2009, 12:50 AM

QUOTE (TechnoBulldog @ Nov 16 2009, 11:12 AM)

Maybe we should PM Spaceone and ask him :D

Then again, that would be rude...

No disrespect to Jagex at all, I'm sure there's a reason behind the secrecy, but I don't know if you've noticed that every question regarding new projects or stuff about SD recieves the same answer, "We can't say." I think pm'ing them would be rather fruitless and wouldn't gain much.

But then again, perhaps they are willing to share something with their fansites.

Aslancsc

Nov 16 2009, 03:40 AM

why does an internet gaming website need to have any secrets at all? Except for maybe their runescript and their game engine code... but some gaming companies just let that all be open source.

Max

Nov 16 2009, 06:22 AM

QUOTE (Aslancsc @ Nov 15 2009, 09:40 PM)

why does an internet gaming website need to have any secrets at all? Except for maybe their runescript and their game engine code... but some gaming companies just let that all be open source.

Just think about it. The nature of the internet and why businesses don't sharing everything they know to there nearest competitor. I'm also sure that Jagex in general doesn't want to say something and then change their mind the next. It is most likely an idea or concept that they just came up with and decided it was worthy registering.

Spam

Nov 22 2009, 03:48 AM

QUOTE (Lord John @ Nov 15 2009, 07:50 PM)

QUOTE (TechnoBulldog @ Nov 16 2009, 11:12 AM)

Maybe we should PM Spaceone and ask him :D

Then again, that would be rude...

No disrespect to Jagex at all, I'm sure there's a reason behind the secrecy, but I don't know if you've noticed that every question regarding new projects or stuff about SD recieves the same answer, "We can't say." I think pm'ing them would be rather fruitless and wouldn't gain much.

But then again, perhaps they are willing to share something with their fansites.

First of all. How is pming someone rude. Your just asking a question...

secondly, they probably have so much secrecy so the genuses of msw don't go browsing through their files and posting every little thing they find. They so called *leaks* are what they want us to see so we can get all freaked out and figure out what it is for. They are just playing with our minds.