Every single story i read here is either:

Unintresting
Not fun to read.
Can't understand the situation.
So deep that it becomes boring

But thats my opinion...
Why not make better stories?

The rare Purple/red/yellow/any colour exept green pliigis
The Agitrom's (the oppisite of mortigas)
The Mech Orbs (The orbs which gives life to mechs)

Elements that make the reader think the story is intresing.
Imagination.... :)

Which seems to lack... most probably because the game isn't out yet...

I have tried making a story for this forum, and it is more than likely that mine is one of the ones you are referring to as dry. But, yes, what you said is an opinion. It is said that you cannot please all of the people all of the time, and that rings true here. It sounds like you have some good ideas yourself, though, and I would be interested in reading a story that you write. If there are not any stories on the forum that you like, this is the perfect time to inspire someone with a magnificent story made by you.

I'd like to see you write a story though. I'm guessing mine is one of the to complex ones. You try writing a story without character development.

Any little contribution will encourage other people to write. Feel free to give people criticism in their own thread, or just show us how it really is done.
Some people just write to improve, or just to find their style, it can't be all good.

I feel hurt...

Well, I guess it is uninteresting and hard to understand...

But, the choice of Pliigi, is generally because that they were confirmed, and thus easiest to think of random situations with. If you've noticed in my stories, they followed under the Pliigi, soon going into a Conspiracy concept once the forum learned more and thought more of the other Factions, to which I have devised.

And, I put all my imagination I could muster for a sci-fi story based on Concept Art art...

*Tears drop from eyes, still moody from the posts I did in the roleplay thread*

*Cries in corner*

You try writing a story, fag. I haven't seen you even try. Don't come on here bashing everyones stories when you couldn't even write a half decent one, with your terrible english. Gtfo.

I personally think they are quite good, especially Ren's robot one. I loved that.

@EliteZeon; ignore this kid, your story is great:)

Yea, I don't think I'll be writing anymore. /point

Instead of being sad, be happy.

I think I need to write something more flamboyant, but for now I'm more inspired to be dry and depressed.

Don't listen to Human, he's an idiot. Keep writing.

Rawful gais he r teh sed j00 sux so now j00 muss cummit teh sapuk00z 4 j00 dishanah j00r famly!1!!1

Human... Honestly, your opinion isn't worth much around here. Write your own story, and then we'll talk.

Human,

Don' act like a jerk towards other peoples stories. I haven't seen a story i haven't liked here yet. They are mostly good qualitiy stories. And when you start critisizing them, not everyone likes to be corrected. You demotivize them and make them quit. So i suggest appologizing. You are one out of 100. its not going to stop all of us. Our good stories FTW. And i was polite as possible. You don't want to see me get angry. Its not often but when it does, its not pretty.

I like the fact Human still hasn't replied or apologized or anything along those lines. Gf kid.

It's hard to make a good story with only concept art, an mp3, and expect it to do very well. That's not to say there aren't good stories out there (I'm quite a fan of EliteZeon's work ;] )I'm sure there'll be better reads when we get a beta or something.

Ok, I feel this bullshit must stop. The dude posted HIS opinion, and now everyone is flaming him. If he doesn't like the stories, then ok. And he posted his reasons for not liking them. Telling him off because he personally has not written anything is the equivalent of telling off a critic who points out what are, in his opinion, flaws in a video game because the critic has not personally created any video game.

Not all of us are good at writing, that doesn't mean we cannot criticize others. Criticism helps us evolve. That said, I find it funny that you guys are reacting like this. Getting so pissed off because someone dared not give you your validation. Because someone thought a bit too independently, came to their own conclusions about your work that aren't the same "ZOMG GOOD JOB DUDE KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK" that others post, probably to make you feel good about yourself.


Stop looking for validation, stop trying to have others validate your existence. You think your writing is the shit? Then keep writing. Don't want to accept criticism because you don't think it's valid? That's fine. But that doesn't mean you need to start reacting back like some needy little bitch.

Girls do that. I don't think everyone posting here is a girl.


Men=inner validation

Women=external validation


I will finish by saying, take what you can use, and discard the rest. Someone said you need more imagination in your work? Take that into consideration. You may decide your stories are imaginative enough but at least you didn't blindly toss this notion aside without even thinking about why it was said in the first place. That would be being ignorant.

Blade, the reason I think people are flaming him, is because...

1. Instead of replying directly to the threads, he decides to make one thread and say that they all suck. Saying it's boring and dull is very broad, and not really all that helpful in the long run, in my opinion. His "criticism" isn't really all the constructive. If he truly wanted to give good criticism, he should have posted in the individual threads, so he could point out the things he didn't like.

2. He hasn't posted at all, besides his initial post. Which leads me (and others) to think he's just trolling for S&G's.

I know Human prior to him joining MSW, and he deliberately trolls people and forums for lulz.

I never said your stories sucked people... :(
I just didn't find them that intresting and by posting my opinion and trying to give ideas for everyone who <3's writing i get flamed.

I'm just trying to make more peeps read the stories here and make more themselves like PoultryChamp's release mechscape! fanmade which was fun and intresting and wasn't being boring with emotions!.

As i said this is mostly because the game isn't out yet.
I'm sure stories written here will most likely improve when the game is released.
Our imagination will most likely improve at the point and i just wish that every writer here keeps making stories a little more intresting.

Crash Jordan why are you here flaming me and disagreeing that stories shouldn't improve?



Where do i troll people and forums for the lulz?
I don't troll people or forums...
MSW, RSOF and FOOF are the only forums i use.... MSW mostly, RSOF?
I don't post there and i don't in FOOF...
And your saying we met prior to me joining MSw?
I don't remember any 'Crash Jordan'



Oh so not using a computer for 2 days due to me having to go to a trip (camping) is most likely me trolling?
I never said they all sucked its that i didn't find they had enough imagination.
I needed this thread to say something.

@Bladepaul

Yes i said my opinion and they misunderstood me and made they flamed me. (not all but crash jordan is the troll)
But your being harsh too. They Flaming Me + You Flaming Them = Flame Wars And i didn't flame them back which means your the one who is starting it,

@TheGreyGuy

I know....
Thats what i said on my last sentence.


What is there to apolagize?
For them misunderstanding me?
Everbody makes mistakes and i think thats because i made this and i didn't have enough time to 'resummarise it'
Gf kid?
The door to the RSOF (Runescape official forums) is open for you.



Im not acting like a jerk, i just gave them some suggestions to the writers and they just 'quit' because they're work didn't make every person like them ???
You like every story you say, i never said i hated them neither like them.
Just because you like a story or me hate one that doesn't mean i or you should love/hate X story.


Im not a good good master writer and i just gave these suggestions that can have endless of imagination to go with as i know the writers here would write an excellent story with the high amount of possibilites and imagination.



Troll calls me an idiot,
I never told them to quit but write better stories with more imagination.
You telling them not to listen me about telling them to improve their stories is just proving how you don't want to help X writer be better at what he does and just do his job with the same progress.


Uh? Someone who got me out of all these people? (along with bladepaul)
To write better stories?


Keep writing and take my suggestions.
Less indepth, more fun.

I hate to read stuff similair to twilight books which always tell emotions, making the story too In-depth and nearly no space for intresting and fun.
Is saying emotions all the time fun or intresting?



Can you troll?
Never said i could write better.
I bashed stories?
*Gasp* i never knew saying the problems X story had was bashing them.
Can you even write a half decent one?
Im not english?
Gtfo?
Is that nice english?
Ren's robot which?
Yeah his story is great for which improvement can be made for less in-depthsion.


Cry because i told you, you can improve?
And because you realised that not everyone liked your stories?

Apparently they are right when they said it is sometimes impossible to read a sarcastic tone in text... the cry in the corner was supposed to be a play on the long as hell emotional text I placed in on the Role Play thread... I already know not everyone likes my creations, as I am used to people flaming me for specific drawings I post up.

Tried putting a Mellow Face in terms of:
Mellow - to make more relaxed, agreeable, workable, etc.; soften or smooth:

Or pretty much a face in neutral status.

So just ignore the first and last few sentences in that post.

In terms of my post, I was generally just pointing my reasoning of events and cliches with my story. Apparently, I can't do a story without going indepth, since it simply feel empty.

And I simply just pointed out, in terms of you saying we don't use imagination. Imagination is something limited yet unlimited in man, it reveals itself in different ways. Not sure how to put it, but we all have our different methods, and it uses the farthest reaches of our thoughts.
Just scratch that out if you don't get what I am trying to point at.

You say you aren't a writer, yet you point out at multiple things. Give it a shot, make a story on what you "want to see" in our "Dry Stories."

EliteZeon,
Reading your emotional in-depth post made it look like one of your stories.

With the game not being out yet, we don't have alot of imagination for it.
And i don't get your point.

Ren's robot fan-fiction entitled "A Mech called Murrie"
http://www.mechscapeworld.com/forums/index...?showtopic=9199

Human, you missed a large portion of my post...

Instead of just making one thread that says the current stories don't interest you, you should have posted in the individual threads themselves if you wanted us to take a lot of heed to them. Like I said before, dull and boring are VERY broad terms, and doesn't really help... at all.

Also, emotion=bad story? So then I suppose most novels are horrid then, right? The reason we put... "emotional" parts in our stories, is to set up character development and a sense of progression in the story.

I don't think i haven't read a story without some emotional aspect in it. So you say all books suck basically.

Thats why you have me added ingame, note the friends symbol in your clan chat;)
You and I were talking one day and you said how you love trolling people on forums for lulz. Grow up.

You should of just kept your damn opinion to yourself. Not everyone agrees with it (which is obvious from the threads replies. )

I think I'll just stay away from this thread before I get any more pissed off.

There is a major issue with this sentence. Can anyone see what it is?

Imagination is often restrained by reality, being imaginative means breaking out of those constraints. The game isn't out so there should be no bounds on the possibilities, IMO people with good imagination should be even more creative in this phase. When the game is out, we will have a large chunk of game in front of us, with rules and graphics and sounds and gameplay choices that are constrained by the way Jagex decided to design the game.

Indeed, expect the stories to almost become less creative when the game is released.

Read that.
Should have said which.



I don't think we've ever met or have i ever spoken to you on Runescape or anywhere, i don't remember any crash jordan that comes to mind.... Only Crash Bandicoot ....
And then you posted later.



Emotional as in always saying emotions everytime something happened the person felt something different.


How do 'X person felt sad then felt happy when x person said your cool then x thing happened and x person got scrared then x person got terrified' build up character development?
Say emotions but not all the time like the stories i read.

I agree. I don't see why you guys are harassing him so much about it.





His complaints are about the stories in here in general. I think that warrants a thread, and apparently so do you if you posted in it.

Edit: I'd like to point out that the first 8 actual stories in here have 1-6 posts, but have ~100 views. This is probably why. =/

They are just not famous.
I don't feel like making a story over 1500 words as my school's 700-1000 are enough

But this is a fun one that i may actually have fun making with not alot of emotions.

Rofl guys it's the dude's opinion, let's not waste so much time trying to argue over it. He thinks your stories are not imaginative enough. Whatever, don't let that make you go on a crusade to destroy him.

I thought the same thing.

also to bladepaul. Wait, are you saying i shouldn't have done something to his cofee? oops. well its to late now.








jk lol.

wow man, ur pretty harsh

I edited because i see u are trying to help them with ideas, but next time be alittle less harsh

I notice that there is one common issue to several of the unneccesary arguments several of you have made.

Most great works of literature take time to develop and write. Due to that, we have fewer, regretably. The really good reads, in my opinion, have gone through a process called editing. Yes, J.K. Rowling edited her books. Yes, Orson S. Card edited his books. Yes, Even Jagex had to edit their book. Now, it is true that some books have not been edited, in large part because of their age. The Leviathan for example. A great, truthful read about politicality in the days beyond Ye Olde Days.
But, that being said, there are also some of the best books that HAD to be edited due to a different language i.e. the Scriptures, and even books that had innapropriate parts that my church produced edited versions of, which they do for video games and movies, although they do allow us to view or play the originals, although it is advised against.

Ok well this is kinda old so we don't really need to continue the debate.

Not sure why this was dug up

JJ was probly just browsing and commented, so I gave my take on it. didnt notice the dates, my apologies mr thomas

Actually the problem that this forum doesn't get alot of attention still remains.

Yeah. That's the problem. Too many people are angry with Jagex and their “soons”. So they steer clear of any thread relating to Stellar Dawn. Even the stories which are solely based off of our own imaginations. Which isn't good for us....We don't get feedback on our stories and they can't be changed...

I'm not letting this die.

Grats for bumping it :S

How can you write imaginative stories about a game with so little information. Perhaps that's why they are dry... They are purely speculation.

Happy Christmas :)

thats been pointed out already,,,,

Your not letting this die? Wtf?
Do you think that making people upset and telling them that their stories are the worst you've ever read is going to make them use your ideas for them to make more stories for you? Think about it.
Write your own stuff.

Rednosed,
As much as we appreciate for everyone to share their opinions, I think you are going at it the wrong way.
First, as many as said, you should post directly on the thread which the story is on. On that thread you can give
suggestion, what worked, and what didn't work. Making a separated thread won't help anyone improve their story,
actually I feel it has discouraged people from doing it, because you are pointing at everyone who has written a story.
Second, you can go ahead and make your own story, show people how good a story can be done without much
information about Stellar Dawn.
I am going to go ahead an close it, because I find this thread has spent enough time awake, and many have shared
the same opinion about posting on a story's thread directly.
Third, your 'criticism' is destructive, and not helpful. You can't just go ahead saying 'they suck' and not give what exactly
sucked.