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LordTobytwo
The current mechscape looks ok and seems to play well. Why stop us from playing the BETA version of the game while they clear up the rest of it. It's not rocket science. Release he old version for us or at least proritse and make the f2p world quicker so we can try out that.

Theories:

Henrique Olifers (or whatever his name is lol) had quit (fact up until this point in sentence) due to the fact mechscape has been stripped back to the bones for re-modeling. My theory is they want the technology from 2007-8 when they made alot of it updated. But then if they do that surely in 2010 they will still be slightly behind...

Mechscape is coming on the 27th of December 2010 - my guess happy.gif

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Link to the vid. Not my own work.

Now the above video features the game from quite a while ago by the looks of it yet it still seems fine and fully playable if you excuse the hypercam used. I would be more than happy to use this as a beta.
Max
No beta because Jagex is like building the core aspects right now due to the need to want to get the release right the first time.
Stellar
We've known about the video for a couple days now.

The truth is, Jagex is completely renewing the game. What you see in that video is not what you will play on it's release.

I suggest you read this thread. The OP is a Jagex Mod, as well as another boy in purple.
Lord John
Stellar is right. They can't release the BETA because they are still working on it.
nicatronTg
Beta means, "Ok, everything's setup, now we need to make sure it works with real players." Stellar Dawn isn't even in Alpha stage.

Edit: Poll, why? It's proven they can't release beta with the amount of work they've done. Beta right now would be a hell of a lot of development textures and animations.
displayname
because they just started <.<
puppychow
Mortiga ftw!
DjIceman
My guess is, there is nothing to beta test right now. And quite frankly, there wont be anything to beta test for at least another half-a-year. AT THE VERY LEAST.

So basically, wait 'til the summer of next year, then you may THINK about posting such a thread. Even then, I suggest that you wouldn't. ;o You see, Jagex has their sort of... How should I say... "Ethics". If they wanted to release a game that's not half finished, they would have already done so. But they don't, so they won't. So... Stop asking that.


Thank you
Iceman
LordTobytwo
QUOTE (DjIceman @ Oct 29 2009, 05:31 PM) *
My guess is, there is nothing to beta test right now. And quite frankly, there wont be anything to beta test for at least another half-a-year. AT THE VERY LEAST.

So basically, wait 'til the summer of next year, then you may THINK about posting such a thread. Even then, I suggest that you wouldn't. ;o You see, Jagex has their sort of... How should I say... "Ethics". If they wanted to release a game that's not half finished, they would have already done so. But they don't, so they won't. So... Stop asking that.


Thank you
Iceman




Hmm. Understood. If they did prioritise the BETA though it would mean, judging it is the scale of the RS version which is about 1-3 on the map then if should take one quarter of the time to achieve the free to play version. But then it does not as you must factor in the key system but aha! The key systems and skeletal framework have already been made. There still must be a bit of programming but I believe maybe considering they re-started about one months ago that the f2p BETA could be ready by late spring.

The key features is the beta does not matter in the slightest for quality and the decorations. I'm not asking the to release a half finished game. I am asking for a small half finished preview. It's just about testing for bugs and seeing the inital reaction. It can be easily played without any high detail characters or anything. The game is going to take a while to be fully finished but the beta may be done well before then.
59Dinosaurs
Gosh is that video real?? hype for mee :D is no one else enjoying it?
LordTobytwo
90% certain it's real. I discovered it while researching but since then it has dissapeared. This version is one that somebody else has taped off it I am guessing.

Mechs FTW. ROBOTS SHALL CONQUER THE EARTH(S)! (of Stellar Dawn)
Pliigi
QUOTE (Babcha @ Oct 29 2009, 12:49 PM) *
Gosh is that video real?? hype for mee :D is no one else enjoying it?


Yes, the video is real, Mark Gerhard posted this two days ago:

QUOTE (Plexus @ Oct 26 2009, 03:56 AM) *
QUOTE (Lord John @ Oct 26 2009, 11:15 AM) *
This video actually serves a purpose. It has shown us all how crap the game would've been if they released it ages ago. At least it gives me some hope that they'll improve and actually make a good game.


Couldn't agree more Lord John, just to give you all a little background on the video, the video is extremely old, we created it for a Studio meeting back in February 2008 if I recall correctly, that means it even predates RuneScape HD!
The video was never designed for public viewing and as I said on the MSW Q&A we have fundamentally changed the game content and designs. Whilst the video may be a nice bit of eye candy for those of you eager to see the game, it would be a mistake to base your expectations of Stellar Dawn on anything you have seen in the video, actually I believe the video does the current game in development a disservice.

Cheers,
Mark
LordTobytwo
I mind how things look but to be honest it's content over textures as mark has said before somewhere.


I would rather play an awesome game with a great script than a rubbish game with good graphics. Take RS classic for example. Runescape is built on good content yet bad down.gif graphics and to be honest the time spent on runescape hd I would rather have seen more quests, more skill updates and an end to the GE without even mentioning the words "eastern continent".

I'm not playing stellar dawn for the graphics when it comes out.
Syphzar
I would definately do anything for a beta now - even if what we do in-game was reset once the beta was over. It should be on the down low though, not an announcement on RuneScape news, tell people who are really interested somewhere else.
strrox4
i agree with syphzar
LordTobytwo
Check ma new thread. cool.gif

Click here.

It's planning how to do things so that we here at mechscape stay ahead. biggrin.gif

Like omg does stellar change his avatar every 2 seconds? In the past few hours he has gona through about 4-5...
Shadow2139
I like pliigis but i dont think they're nessecarily insectoids. also, a beta would be nice but all i really need is a screen shot :p
Bladepaul
Lord Tobytwo that video was posted way before you put it on this thread. Climb off your high horse.
LordTobytwo
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Lord Tobytwo that video was posted way before you put it on this thread. Climb off your high horse.


Do mechs have need for horses? happy.gif

I found it after other people did, I admit that. Not trying to boast it was me who discovered origionally and there is a disclaimer saying it was not my own vidding. Never meant to sound smug sad.gif .
Spam
I want to see the video but ol' reliable youtube is down for DAILY maintenece....But i want the video already.


edit: I saw that video before and thought it was fake because of graphics. I didn't know it acually came from jagex! But it does look fun. Good work jagex. Can't wait for the beta. happy.gif
Buddy4point0
Did anyone download the video that can send it to me?
Jagex got rid of your link.

edit: nvm, I found it.
Orbie
At this point, with the rework just getting underway, I wouldn't want a Beta. Eventually, though, I would love a Beta for longtime RS members whose names start with 'O' and end with 'rb Master44'...or something...

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Ampi
Is this that trailer that was leaked a week ago?

Or is this a new video I never heard of, in which case, can someone send me a link that works? (Preferably a download)
Mcharger
QUOTE (Ampi @ Nov 1 2009, 10:44 PM) *
Is this that trailer that was leaked a week ago?

Or is this a new video I never heard of, in which case, can someone send me a link that works? (Preferably a download)

Pretty sure it's the one from a week ago, otherwise we'd have an entire thread dedicated to it with Ren having 20 posts and all sorts of other speculation going on.
Max
QUOTE (Mcharger @ Nov 1 2009, 10:49 PM) *
QUOTE (Ampi @ Nov 1 2009, 10:44 PM) *
Is this that trailer that was leaked a week ago?

Or is this a new video I never heard of, in which case, can someone send me a link that works? (Preferably a download)

Pretty sure it's the one from a week ago, otherwise we'd have an entire thread dedicated to it with Ren having 20 posts and all sorts of other speculation going on.


It's the same video with a changed audio track. Jagex is pretty determined to stop a video that is now viral.
LordTobytwo
Aplogies Jagex are cracking down. I have found a new one which I have are-posted the link for. It is the same as the one we already hav but yes it is for real. GL watching it.

BTW the other audio track sucks.

Mechs FTW.
Leaven
Damn that looks amazing. I eat my words and take back every slag I ever made against this game. I can't wait biggrin.gif It's good to go away for a while and to come back to this surprise. I just got a new computer so I'm hoping they release the beta soon.
Lord John
QUOTE (Leaven @ Nov 6 2009, 08:28 PM) *
Damn that looks amazing. I eat my words and take back every slag I ever made against this game. I can't wait biggrin.gif It's good to go away for a while and to come back to this surprise. I just got a new computer so I'm hoping they release the beta soon.

That's a first, everyone else thinks it looks like Runescape in Space.
Leaven
Hey there's nothing wrong with yellow text, green health bars, click and go movement, and the runescape battle system biggrin.gif.
nicatronTg
QUOTE (Leaven @ Nov 6 2009, 05:49 AM) *
Hey there's nothing wrong with yellow text, green health bars, click and go movement, and the runescape battle system biggrin.gif.


Nothing wrong? They were trying to not be RuneScape in space. Hence the name change, etc.
Max
QUOTE (nicatronTg @ Nov 6 2009, 07:25 AM) *
QUOTE (Leaven @ Nov 6 2009, 05:49 AM) *
Hey there's nothing wrong with yellow text, green health bars, click and go movement, and the runescape battle system biggrin.gif .


Nothing wrong? They were trying to not be RuneScape in space. Hence the name change, etc.


Yea, I think using the same assets or just changing the colors a little isn't going to make people think "this isn't RuneScape in space." I understand that the gameplay could be a lot different but you still have parts which are the defining elements of RuneScape. I'm thinking that they changed it by now and have either a different method or using spats that are unique to MechScape. Actually, I hope they do away with health bars and instead show that the enemy is getting hurt or damaged. That was you have an appropriate guess how much damage to do left.

Taking solid numbers out more and more would help to feel like it is less of a grind along with removing the need to grind to begin with.
LordTobytwo
Hmmm... I like the yellow text but agree on hp bars.
EliteZeon
QUOTE (Max @ Nov 6 2009, 11:44 AM) *
Taking solid numbers out more and more would help to feel like it is less of a grind along with removing the need to grind to begin with.


Aye I agree...

I want to see enemy vehicles on Fire... Smoking... Ready to Explode... etc to figure out how hurt it is... The style of attacks by fleshy creatures... so forth.
Oscar
I'm sorry, but if that was anything like the real game, I'd be horribly disappointed, and I can personally see why Jagex scrapped it. That is literally RuneScape in space, half of the video just looks like an edited Al Kharid and half like the passageway leading up to the fight caves. If you ask me, I'd say that video is fake, but yeah, if it is a leaked trailer, again I can see why Jagex scrapped it.

4 words came to mind: control C, control V
TechnoBulldog
I do have a copy of the high quality video downloaded if it is needed, but I don't think it will be. I don't really want a beta at this point, although I would absolutely love some screenshots. Instead, I just want another game to play until Stellar Dawn comes out.
LordTobytwo
QUOTE (TechnoBulldog @ Nov 7 2009, 03:50 AM) *
I do have a copy of the high quality video downloaded if it is needed, but I don't think it will be. I don't really want a beta at this point, although I would absolutely love some screenshots. Instead, I just want another game to play until Stellar Dawn comes out.


I agree slightly on the pont of a game until they finish but to be honest the beta is never gonna be the finished game. It's not like we're asking them to release the whole game now, just the beta.

For everybodys info that was made in feb 2008 so really the progress upon it should be massive. If the game was playable then at a runescape level of gameplay it should be far more advanced than runescape at the moment.


Couple of things I would not like to see from runescape:

  • Click and go. Gets boring. I need to be able to move using the keyboard yet I wish to be able to use the qwerty keys without clicking a tab. Maybe using the alt keys? Maybe the mouse moves the screen and the arrow keys move you?
  • Boring click and hit combat.
  • Wierd fun stuff like frog masks and flowers etc.
  • One dimensional travel without jumps etc.
  • Having to click stairs rather than just walk up them.

Drachen
QUOTE
For everybodys info that was made in feb 2008 so really the progress upon it should be massive. If the game was playable then at a runescape level of gameplay it should be far more advanced than runescape at the moment.


I think it'd be best to assume that right now it is the same, just with "Stellar Dawn HD(which is far from HD)"...

aka RuneScape in space.

Changing the name will not change that.
nicatronTg
QUOTE (Oscar @ Nov 6 2009, 05:03 PM) *
I'm sorry, but if that was anything like the real game, I'd be horribly disappointed, and I can personally see why Jagex scrapped it. That is literally RuneScape in space, half of the video just looks like an edited Al Kharid and half like the passageway leading up to the fight caves. If you ask me, I'd say that video is fake, but yeah, if it is a leaked trailer, again I can see why Jagex scrapped it.

4 words came to mind: control C, control V


MMG (Plexus) confirmed that that video was authentic, and was made to show the team in February 2008.

QUOTE (Drachen @ Nov 7 2009, 05:55 PM) *
QUOTE
For everybodys info that was made in feb 2008 so really the progress upon it should be massive. If the game was playable then at a runescape level of gameplay it should be far more advanced than runescape at the moment.


I think it'd be best to assume that right now it is the same, just with "Stellar Dawn HD(which is far from HD)"...

aka RuneScape in space.

Changing the name will not change that.


MMG also said that they axed that version of the game, and are starting again fresh.

For future tip: Read the whole thread.
Drachen
QUOTE (nicatronTg @ Nov 7 2009, 10:00 PM) *
QUOTE (Oscar @ Nov 6 2009, 05:03 PM) *
I'm sorry, but if that was anything like the real game, I'd be horribly disappointed, and I can personally see why Jagex scrapped it. That is literally RuneScape in space, half of the video just looks like an edited Al Kharid and half like the passageway leading up to the fight caves. If you ask me, I'd say that video is fake, but yeah, if it is a leaked trailer, again I can see why Jagex scrapped it.

4 words came to mind: control C, control V


MMG (Plexus) confirmed that that video was authentic, and was made to show the team in February 2008.

QUOTE (Drachen @ Nov 7 2009, 05:55 PM) *
QUOTE
For everybodys info that was made in feb 2008 so really the progress upon it should be massive. If the game was playable then at a runescape level of gameplay it should be far more advanced than runescape at the moment.


I think it'd be best to assume that right now it is the same, just with "Stellar Dawn HD(which is far from HD)"...

aka RuneScape in space.

Changing the name will not change that.


MMG also said that they axed that version of the game, and are starting again fresh.

For future tip: Read the whole thread.


For Future tip: Read what I said.

I said assume the CURRENT VERSION is basically RuneScape HD in space.

PS: I don't care what MMG "says". Jagex was saying before the vid was leaked that it will be "awesome" and "not RuneScape in space." Obviously that was false...
LordTobytwo
Dude, it is remarkable that it was even working two years ago... It was runescape in space two years ago so it is now two years better than that. That is the point.
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